Posts by NaruNaruChan

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So I have a Question...And I would appreciate an answer...^_^

by NaruNaruChan in

wow, it's been forever since i posted on here.

anyway, in the last three years i've managed to completely separate myself from the jw way of thinking.

at this point, i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's crap, and their teachings mean nothing to me... but my best friend made a terrible mistake, so i need some advice regarding his situation.. .

NaruNaruChan

Yeah, it's a nightmare of a situation. He says he loves her and won't leave her... but she's too crazy. Like, it took her less than 6 months from the wedding date to realize she couldn't handle leaving the WTS because her whole family is still in it.

I told him to play hardball, and fight back. I think he's doing just that as I type... because he has a short fuse, and I don't think it'll last.

Oh, they won't have kids, I hope. He said NO FUCKING WAY when it comes to having them, because they're too expensive and he's too young to do it.

Thanks for the advice!

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So I have a Question...And I would appreciate an answer...^_^

by NaruNaruChan in

wow, it's been forever since i posted on here.

anyway, in the last three years i've managed to completely separate myself from the jw way of thinking.

at this point, i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's crap, and their teachings mean nothing to me... but my best friend made a terrible mistake, so i need some advice regarding his situation.. .

NaruNaruChan

Wow, it's been FOREVER since I posted on here. Anyway, in the last three years I've managed to completely separate myself from the JW way of thinking. At this point, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's crap, and their teachings mean nothing to me... but my best friend made a terrible mistake, so I need some advice regarding his situation.

The girl who converted me into being one of JWs when I was 17 started dating my best non-jw friend. They moved in together, and during that time she was doing the whole slow fade out of the religion. She told me, after I disassociated myself for being a lesbian, that she didn't believe in the religion... that "organized religion just didn't fit her personality." Anyway, she started dating my buddy, and told her very very JW family that they were living together, unwed. They put a TON of pressure on her, so she told him "If we get married, then we can live together without any problems and my family will leave me alone." She even told him (he didn't ask her to do this, either) that she was leaving the religion after they got married. Well he married her like a dumb ass, and guess what? She's more in it than ever!!

So here's the worst part. Her mother like, controls her life. She cannot stand up to her, and at this point is taking medication (antidepressants and gavitrol) just to cope with her situation. She's pressuring my buddy to become a witness, and he won't budge. Now she's denying him sex, acting like a bitch, and throwing crazy ass fits. He's handling it, but it's difficult for him. What do you guys think I can tell him that will help him to deal with the situation? Anyway, thanks. ^_^

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Is It My Imagination, Or Is California And Texas...

by exjdub in

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the best represented geographical areas on this forum.

i have not done a formal count, but there sure are a lot of people from those two areas.

is that because they are extremely large states or is there another reason?

NaruNaruChan

Logically, I think it all boils down to how conservative a state is. CA is not very conservative, so you'll find more apostates. On the other hand, tx is really religious, and so a lot of people just.. ah hell, it's the boobs.

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My old JW best friend is now Inactive

by NaruNaruChan in

... and i'm surprised, because of how devout i "thought" she was, and how "in the truth" her family is.. turns out, she's bipolar (surprise, surprise, another mental disorder found in a jw) this is the one that was my best friend when i was in the "truth" and now she's totally wild...

??

i dunno guys, it just get s weirder and weirder in california.

NaruNaruChan

Yeah, I'm gonna try to be there for her because I know what i went through leaving, and so... I figure, if I make friends with her a little bit, (just keep my guard up) maybe I can help her see that life without dubs is a lot better. I

Funny thing is this... the shrink she went to said it was her JW mom's rules that made her feel bipolar to begin with.. that the religion was doing it! her mom made her stop going, but she didn't forget those words, that's what is important. ^_^

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My Gay Life

by joelbear in

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it seems millenia ago that homosexuals dared not declare that fact about them out loud for fear of being imprisoned, beaten to death or at least ostracized by society.

true, some are still ostracized, some are still beaten but more and more they are simply becoming a part of the social fabric of families, communities and society as a whole.. was it just 1969 that a handful of drag queens decided enough was enough and refused to meekly be led off to jail for the night simply for socializing with each other in a bar in new york city.

i was 11 years old when that happened and was just beginning to understand that i myself was a homosexual.

NaruNaruChan

Good stuff, dude, good stuff. It's funny, I was still a dub when I went to NY, and now I 'm kicking myself for not going to greenwich village to hit up stonewall for a a beer and salute those old 'queens who started our revolution. Instead, i go to the castro here in CA, sit in the cafe, and marvel at how much we've grown as a community.

Keep it up, dude.

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My old JW best friend is now Inactive

by NaruNaruChan in

... and i'm surprised, because of how devout i "thought" she was, and how "in the truth" her family is.. turns out, she's bipolar (surprise, surprise, another mental disorder found in a jw) this is the one that was my best friend when i was in the "truth" and now she's totally wild...

??

i dunno guys, it just get s weirder and weirder in california.

NaruNaruChan

... and I'm surprised, because of how devout I "thought" she was, and how "in the truth" her family is.. turns out, she's bipolar (surprise, surprise, another mental disorder found in a JW) This is the one that was my best friend when I was in the "truth" and now she's totally wild... ?? I dunno guys, it just get s weirder and weirder in california.

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a question for "THEOCRAT" and other active JWs who post

by NaruNaruChan in

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... i've asked this to other active jw's who post on the forum, and i never get a response worth listening to... so here goes, try number 1 million.

if you're so faithful to your organization, why.

posting.

NaruNaruChan

heh, thanks guys. Sometimes I find myself on here and I get frustrated because it's like, I don't hate dubs, but I hate hypocrisy. I know this is a free board, hell, I exercise my right to say what I want when I want... but I dislike the hypocrisy of active witnesses postin because it's so two-faced.

How can you make such a stupid comment? This is not a forum for apostates only. It says everyone welcome. Why in heck are you so angry that JWs are on the internet? I feel sorry for people that are so emtionally torn that they hate other people just for posting about JWs on a JW site.

How can you call me stupid when I'm not the hypocrite. I know this forum is for everybody, but again, do you see the hypocrisy of active witnesses posting?

Don't pity me, I'm far from emotionally torn.

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Are you Gay

by butterfly in

i "came out" a few years ago, after living straight for 30 years.

tried to deny all those years that i was a lesbian.

but even if i didnt act on it...i still was.

NaruNaruChan

is there any one book you can read that could turn you gay?

Nope. But there are a lot of books that make men and women "curious" about homosexuality, and cause a lot of people to lean towards experimentation... usually, if a person stays gay or lesbian after experimentation, they've come out.

After all.. why CHOOSE to be something that isn't exactly welcomed in society? It's much much harder to be gay or lesbian than it is to be straight because of the extent of persecution faced by homosexuals daily. ...

.. but... if I had to guess on that book thing, anything by the Watchtower, if prolonged exposure occurs, could probably turn a person gay... after all, it damn near kept me straight...

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a question for "THEOCRAT" and other active JWs who post

by NaruNaruChan in

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... i've asked this to other active jw's who post on the forum, and i never get a response worth listening to... so here goes, try number 1 million.

if you're so faithful to your organization, why.

posting.

NaruNaruChan

Copsec,

He posted stuff on the 21st about jw's being the only true religion, and it pissed me off because the active ones come on here and it's like, not bad enough that most of us run into them every day aand get shunned, now they have to come on the boaards and get all condescending and expect us to be these stupid fools who somehow "missed" all that crap at the meetings. Ugh, I hate it.

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Are you Gay

by butterfly in

i "came out" a few years ago, after living straight for 30 years.

tried to deny all those years that i was a lesbian.

but even if i didnt act on it...i still was.

NaruNaruChan

Are you gay? How did you come to terms with that? Do you still have a relationship with GOD and how did you come to terms with that?

Welcome to the board Butterfly! My name on here is Naru, but my real name is Gayle. I'm 22, and I came out and disassociated when I was 20 years old. I'm openly a lesbian and I hardly hesitate these days to hide who i am. ^_^

How did I come to terms with it?? Well, it took an elder meeting for me to not feel the immediate fear, but it's been quite a process. I struggle sometimes, because as you know coming out is so damned hard, and feeling the opposition is even worse. I spent a lot of time getting to know myself better, and that helped me to get to know what I wanted to do with my life. I have aa wonderful girlfriend who has been with me since I came out, so 1.5 years now. ^_^ She and I live happily together in an apartment, and are working diligently towards a better life.

I have no relationship with God IF you evaluate it by JW definitions. I do not attend any christian churches because I'm still wounded from the JW stuff... but I also have no desire for belief in a god right now. That's a personal feeling nothing more... I didn't come to terms with it yet, two years and counting... Don't expect it to be easy but you'll find your way. Just.. hmm... don't forget to let yourself live once in a while. ^_^ PM me if you want to talk more bout this stuff, or e-mail [email protected] and we'll chat. IF not, then take my advice, and don't let the dubs get to you. ^_^