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ESTEE
Posts by ESTEE
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True Story - spirit directed appointments?
by xelder innames of course have been changed.. ann was 17 and was a baptized jw.
her homelife with witness parents was not the best.
her mom, who was raised in the truth had a learning disorder and did her best as a mom, but fell short in many ways.
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ESTEE
Scary. I wonder how often this type of scenario plays out in congregations.
As far as I'm concerned, elders are not qualified to counsel, no matter how many times they read the bible.
Trusting elders for advise actually prevents members from seeking real help for their problems.
Seems to me that elders can actually make a problem worse.
ESTEE
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Okay, Someone "Enlighten" Me, Please...
by AGuest inand may you all have peace!.
i would like to understand, please, if someone cal help me:.
if, when you come out of "her," the most glaring and obvious of things that with you is anger, hatred, intolerance, irritability, deceit, loose conduct (and i mean the really loose, not just the typical) and things like these... such that when you communicate with others, including but not necessarily those still in "her"... these things a manifest... are you proving "her" right... that life is "better" on the inside, at least as far as "they" can "see" it?.
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ESTEE
AGuest,
I was miserable as a jw and that jw life was making me mentally sick. I am grateful that the elders gave me the "boot" because it was just the thing I needed to get on with my life...
That jw religion sure messes up the mind. I have learned to function much more normally than I ever did while being a pent-up, elder-pleasing, brainwashed jw, thanks to years of therapy. And dancing.
My life has improved greatly since being disfellowshipped.
ESTEE
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If you're a gardener ...
by compound complex indo all your plants grow?
i recently asked a friend about certain gardening problems and wondered if, despite all your own green thumb efforts, some of your plants - potted or in ground - remain stunted in their growth.. thanks!.
coco coleus.
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ESTEE
Hi CoCo!
I love to garden. I don't do too well with house plants. Usually, I stifle them with love, I figure.
I do better with the garden outside, where I grow most of my own veggies and a variety of flowers and shrubs.
>do all your plants grow?
No, sometimes my plants do not do well. I planted four geraniums and they would not flower, until I distributed tea leaves around the base. Within a week, new buds appeared. I figured it was the soil condition.
My potatoes grew very well. I planted ten potato parts. They all came up and only one died. The stem turned brown. I cut it down before it could spread to the other plants. We harvested 18 lb of potatoes from 9 plants.
Then, there was the aphid problem. I discovered aphids on my peas, so I cut them down and bagged them, soaked them in cooking oil/laundry detergent, and left the bag in the garbage in the blazing sun. I also discovered aphids on my brussel sprouts
and --- again ---destroyed the plants. I was disappointed, but the infestation was severe.We grow organic veggies.
Also, some garden seeds simply did not germinate. I planted an entire row of flowers at the front of the veggie patch. Not one seed sprouted! I figure there was something wrong with that bag of seed, since the rest of the garden grew fine.
Mr ESTEE transplanted some plants from the old house to the new house. Some lived and some died. Don't know why, except maybe some plants do not like to be disturbed. But, Mr ESTEE is most gentle with plants, saving a great big root ball, yet they still died. Puzzling.
>I recently asked a friend about certain gardening problems and wondered if,
>despite all your own green thumb efforts, some of your plants - potted
>or in ground - remain stunted in their growth.I planted beets this year and they were stunted...never grew mature. I threw them all into the compost bin. They were behind the geraniums, so maybe the soil is depleted. Mr ESTEE will be topping up the garden with compost this fall.
Last year I planted lettuce, which grew fine, except they did not last very long before it got too old. This year, I used the remainder of the seed package, and the lettuce grew and grew and grew and we kept eating it and eating it. The lettuce stayed nice this year, even though the seed was a year older. This was very nice, but how do I explain that one?
Happy gardening!
ESTEE
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Had any Dreams Lately you Want to Share ? What Meanings do you Get ?
by flipper ingawd- i had a crazy dream last night.
in books i've read about dreaming- it has stated many times dreams are about " unfinished situations " in your life that are trying to sort out within your dreams.. my dream was : my son flipper junior and me were being chased by government thugs who wanted us to release some important numbers - a code we had written down.
only problem was is this code had information that would cost our families & friends lives if these government people got them from us.
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Hi Flipper,
As per usual, great thread started by you! Can you stand hearing one more dream?
I dreamed I was was having dinner with an elder's wife. I was amazed that she was talking to me, since I am disfellowshipped. Next thing I looked up and there were two elders with stakes. I knew they wanted to kill me. They wanted to burn me. I ran around outside the restaurant, then ran around the building and ducked inside the back door. It had nice rich varnished wood. I ducked behind the wooden part, but the sun was shining through the glass. I started to relax, but the elders ran inside the restaurant again and they spotted me. The doorway was too bright where I was hiding. They came after me again --- and I woke up.
I figured this is a spillover from a past life where I was burned at the stake for being a witch.
Do you believe there is such a thing as past lives?
ESTEE
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Question on Case of Disfellowshipped then Committed Suicide
by ruruj inthere was an occurrence years ago where a jw wrongdoer was disfellowshipped.
in a matter of days this poor victim committed suicide.. would there be any kind of accountability for the victim's suicide death?.
how frequent do these cases happen?.
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ESTEE
I know of two cases where young brothers committed suicide.
I believe suicide happens because as a jw, you have absolutely no support or ties outside of the organization. It is forbidden. So, when you get "pushed out" by disfellowshipping, you have no support system in place to fall back on. No place to land safely. Nowhere to turn. The fear factor is astronomical. It is all part of the brainwash. You are set up to fail if you dare to leave.
Fortunately for me, when I got disfellowshipped, I had been seeing a good therapist who understood cult recovery. Also, I had my dance friends who proved to be very supportive and caring. Thanks to the "world" I discovered that I could find my way to living a balanced life.
ESTEE
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Worldly Friends
by Consfearacy indoes anyone here have friends that were never one of jehovah's witnesses that knows about your activity on these types of internet sites and the stuff you communicate here?.
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ESTEE
Yes, my friends know that I have exited from a dangerous fear-based high control cult. They are happy to hear that I have support from a caring group of people as found on jehovahs-witness.net.
Especially since they know how my kids shun me for leaving the jws. It is inconceivable to "worldly" people how jws can act with such cruelty in the name of gawd.
Yay world!
ESTEE
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SMOKING
by Quentin indue to health reasons (cost of a pack as well) i've gotta stop smoking....terry suggested smokless cigeretts.
what's a good way to stop?
i have managed to cut down to less than 10 a day, but have got to stop period.
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ESTEE
I tried many times to quit. Finally, I quit cold turkey when I got pregnant... I wanted to be a good example for my kids.
You just gotta find what works for you and you will stop.
ESTEE
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Should a DF'd person lie to get reinstated?
by DT insuppose someone is wrongfully disfellowshipped and is unable to appeal successfully.
suppose he still believes in the watchtower society and tries to get reinstated as soon as possible.
imagine that the elders want to make sure that he is repentant by insisting that he shows remorse for what he is accused of doing.
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ESTEE
asilentone, "family reasons" may work for some people, but not for me. I am df'd. My kids shun me, but that action will not blackmail me or force me into going back. I could not live such a lie.
My kids will have to learn to live without me.
Besides, I could never stop dancing, for example. I'm having too much fun in my new life!
ESTEE
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One more disability - but solutions are great
by Lady Lee inok so i have been almost blind in one eye since i was a kid.
i have been using a wheelchair for 7 years now.. and last winter i discovered i am going deaf - there goes my career as a sign langiuage interpreter for the witnesses.
lol.
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ESTEE
Hi Lady Lee!
"can you just imagine how badly wonderfully I could botch up a talk if I was still interpreting - well if I was still a Witness that is ... oh the joys of that thought"
I laughed when I read your comments. You could say, "New light, no more shunning!" It would bring many families together and create much happiness.
By the way, dear one, you have helped so many posters on this site! Thanks for being here.
Love,
ESTEE