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  The elephant in the room swishes its tail

  by Suraj Khan in

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  my believing mother, with whom i've recently reconnected after twenty years, and i had a mostly pleasant conversation this weekend.

  i had planned to visit one of these weekends before the weather gets rough and she called to warn me away this weekend - a vicious storm was coming through.. she mentioned that my uber-dub sister and her family would also be there.

  i carefully and calmly explained that being there at the same time would not be a very good thing.

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  Well done.

  gorgia
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  RANDOM THOUGHTS . . .

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  random thought #1:.

  in primitive times humans got their ideas from observing cause and effect.. if somebody got injured with great loss of blood they would die.

  even the dullest thinker would associate blood with life itself.. random thought #2. when you watch somebody at their deathbed event the cessation of breathing is the signal of death itself.. a primitive observer would connect the exhalation (death-rattle) with the going-out-of-life.. we get the word respiration (breathing) and the word spirit connected to the thought of an intangible soul.. in other words, something (spirit, soul, breath) leaving the body and going off and away at the point of death originated belief in the soul.. a big deal is attached to a simple thing in and of itself no big deal.. random thought #3. a lot of bogus ideas come from mixing things together which do not belong together.

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  Terry,

  I like your random thoughts.

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  Quotes to discourage JWs from researching WT history?

  by JWOP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are there any direct quotes from the watchtower's literature that discourages investigation into their past doctrines and practices?.

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  I wonder also whether the WTS have said anything about what to physically do with their 'old light' literature?

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  MY 10 YEAR OLD COMES HOME FROM SPECIAL ASSEMBLY DAY AND SAYS...

  by PaintedToeNail in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "there was a kid who turned down a college scholarship so he could pioneer.

  how stupid!

  i would do anything to have a scholarship.

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  Yes, I agree with satinka; smart parents, too. Just mentioning wanting to go on to higher education had my parents break out in hives. I'm 34 years old now, and just finished my first year of university! Yay me!!!

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  I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

  i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

  i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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  Space Madness,

  My younger brother, who has gone through a lot since leaving the JDubs, says to me sometimes that he should go back to the religion, to straighten his life out. I try to tell him life isn't actually divided up into 'us' and 'them'. His options are not limited to strictly 'the world' or 'the JW's'. Memories of simpler times can tempt someone back to the JW's, but you know and my younger brother knows it isn't 'the one true religion' at all, and so you'd have to ignore a very important part of yourself if you went back: your authenticity.

  Everyone's posts regarding joining a liberal church or community group, traveling or having some counseling sessions, are wonderful suggestions. It can seem so lonely when you still think the 'us' and 'them' mentality. I know I felt lonely, adrift, without any friends, for quite some time after I left the JDubs.

  But please, I hope so much for you, and for my younger brother, that you both realize the world is wide and inviting and made up of all sorts of experiences that will encourage you to seek the truth for your life. Find your own discipline, don't rely on the WTS to keep you out of harm's way.

  I wish you all the best.

  gorgia
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  Are some JWs justified in staying in the org?

  by greendawn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  most of us left the organisation because we could no longer stand one or other aspect of it, perhaps its very dictatorial administration, the disappointment due to the false promises and vain hopes raised by its leadership, disagreement with the blood ban or pedophile and shunning policies, the feel one gets that this is a business and not a religious organisation manipulating its members to its own profit etc etc.

  these are of course valid reasons for rejecting this religion and refusing to identify with it but do the jws who stay in have a valid argument for rejecting leaving the org?

  they will say: "ok our religion, our society has its flaws but what human society doesn't?

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  EdenOne,

  Thanks for keeping us all up to date too.

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  Hello everyone! I could use some advice

  by SnailsPace2 in

  1. social
  2. family

  most of the time i just lurk .

  lots of times throughout the day.

  however, something has come up that i would like some advice on, especially from members who were exiting the jw religion with young children.. .

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  Cofty's advice is fantastic. I'm certain most of us here on JWN who were born-in's and had to grow up in the JW cult would have loved to have had the opportunity your son may soon have, to be free of the lies and hypocrisy at a young age. I'm so sorry for the confusion he will feel, but later, when he is old enough, he will thank you. Considering how revoltingly early they baptise JW children nowadays, the sooner the better, IMO.

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  How can I stay motivated for field ministry?

  by jgnat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thus asks my beloved and slow-on-the-uptake jw hubby, who is finding it increasingly difficult to drag himself out the door.

  so far, i've tried to avoid sarcastic comebacks (i'ts boring and useless!

  duh!

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  jgnat, he's lucky to have you. My mother finally spoke up about her doubts only after she'd faded for a few years. Before that, there was no way she would talk about any of it. Its been a few years now that she and I have been able to talk about the TTAT. I never would have thought it was possible, so don't give up.

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  First post

  by thedog1 in

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  2. friends

  this is a very strange thing for me to do.

  i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

  i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

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  Welcome theDog1,

  How wonderful you chose to listen to your doubts. I wish you the best in your journey towards greater clarity. You will find much encouragement and understanding here.

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  I give up

  by KariOtt in

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  2. friends

  hubby is now giving 5 days a week to the cult.

  they see more of him while he is awake than i do.

  when he is home he is either sleeping or in his office on his computer.

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  Kariott,

  You are more important than your vows. I'm glad you can come here and vent.

  A class about basic computer skills and the internet would be a good idea, too, just to give you a little more confidence around the PC.

  I was married to an abusive man. I grew up in a JW family believing I would never be able to leave/divorce who I married. It took lots of courage to leave, dealing with feelings of having failed - but I did leave. If you are being mistreated, please consider leaving your husband one day permanently. I repeat - you are more important than your vows.

  gorgia