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  Strange but Sad!

  by John Aquila in

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  2. experiences

  i had a couple of elders come visit me about an hour ago.

  they wanted to inform me that a brother who was well known throughout the circuit had died.

  (i actually knew about it but did not go to the funeral) he was about to hit 90 years old, missed it by a few weeks.

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  It's examples like this that will be the reason why doing away with the shunning policy is just not an option now.
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  Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

  by greenhornet in

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  2. scandals

  the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

  then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/285370002/similarities-between-witnesses-wwll-witnesses-under-rulership-robert-mugabe-zimbabwe
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  To My JW Brothers and Sisters

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?

  )...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.

  but truly, who did we get baptized for?

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  joe134cd

  Frank the issue I have is not so much human imperfection and mistakes been made. The issue I have is one of accountability, openness and transparency. Which I believe Wt displays none of it. This has always been and will always be the case.
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  Governing Body's Money Issues, real or not? Author of Forest Gump got $0 after Hollywood used their accounting magic!

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all the money coming inside the organization and goes through those magic donations boxes quilting the likes of sophie and caleb are filling up don't add up!

  we know the watchtower does has downsized their spending deeply but where is the money going?

  actually you don't need that money to disappear what you need is "hollywood accounting", look what happened to the author of forest gump, he was promised 10% of the net.

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  That's what everyone is wondering. WHERE IS IT????
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  Similarities between witnesses in WWll and witnesses under the rulership of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have just been reading a post by orphancrow/birdwomen2 under the title of .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/270890008/did-judge-rutherford-piss-off-hitler?size=10&page=3.

  first of all i would like to thank orphancrow for his fascinating and insightful research into the jws during world war 2.. this got me thinking however of a very similar situation i heard about in zimbabwe, and what i am wanting to know if anyone can confirm or deny his account.. i was having a conversation with a black brother from zimbabwe while out in field service about the persecution the brothers would be enduring under the rulership of robert mugabe.

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  joe134cd

  I have just been reading a post by orphancrow/birdwomen2 under the title of

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/270890008/did-judge-rutherford-piss-off-hitler?size=10&page=3

  First of all I would like to thank orphancrow for his fascinating and insightful research into the JWs during world war 2.

  This got me thinking however of a very similar situation I heard about in Zimbabwe, and what I am wanting to know if anyone can confirm or deny his account.

  I was having a conversation with a black brother from Zimbabwe while out in field service about the persecution the brothers would be enduring under the rulership of Robert Mugabe. To my surprise this brother actually said the exact opposite to what I thought. Robert Mugabe is quite favourable to the witnesses And prefers to have them working for him in none political roles e.g grounds men, cleaners etc. Because of political neutrality they arnt a threat to his ideals. Interestingly to I note that recently there was an international convention there, and I can't help but wonder if this was a political ploy to perhaps convert the masses to an organisation that will allow him to carry on unhindered. What I think to is this would of also allowed him to improve his public image with the locals e.g foreign currency /spending etc.. As let's face it at the time what other westerner would want to visit Zimbabwe.

  What makes me sort of give credit to this brothers account was the fact that he was:

  Black.

  At least by Zimbabwe standards was wealthy.

  I was under no illusion that he certainly didn't like Mugabe, and he was the reason he was forced to leave the county.

  Served as an elder in Zimbabwe. (Ok that one really dosnt count. Lol)

  Ok so can anyone from Africa confirm or deny this. Thanks
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  I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.

  they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .

  our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.

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  Done4good= I agree with your comments. For sure at the moment they are a wash with cash. It's more the issue of long term solvency.
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  Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

  then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

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  Marked
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  I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.

  they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .

  our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.

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  joe134cd

  I honestly believe by not been more up front about the new funding arrangement (in the elders only part of the letter), this has given the impression to the rank and file they are not short of funds, when the exact opposite could be true. It come back to bite them. I say good bloody job.
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  It's My Turn

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i finally got the, "we would like to stop by with the circus oversneer and have an encouraging visit.

  would ---------day be good, at say -----------?".

  it'll probably be a pretty dull visit with the entire conversation being only one way.

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  joe134cd

  Man I'm just left scratching my head when I hear things like this. Honestly I just walked out the door with out saying anything to anybody. Not a word out of the elders, and not even a visit. I was active in the borg for decades.
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  Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

  then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

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  joe134cd

  So much so that he sent them to the firing squad. Rutherford was an ass.