Posts by joe134cd

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Legally can WT forcibly remove money from KH bank accounts with out the signees permission

by joe134cd in

i just wondered if the wtbts could legally remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission.

are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name.

legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could.

joe134cd

Yes I realise that unofficially there is a lot they could do e.g demotions, threats, removals etc. I'm talking legally here. Would this be another menlo park scenario of yes they are in charge but no they really are not.

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Legally can WT forcibly remove money from KH bank accounts with out the signees permission

by joe134cd in

i just wondered if the wtbts could legally remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission.

are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name.

legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could.

joe134cd

I just wondered if the WTBTS could LEGALLY remove the money from the congregation accounts with out the signees permission. Are the bank accounts deemed society property with the change of realestate ownership into the societies name. Legally could they get away with it if the situation arose , and if not how could they manipulate the situation so they could. Would It be another Menlo Park scenario? We will say in this example that there has been no dishonest behaviour on the part of the BOE. So who is actually in charge of the KH bank accounts.

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Anyone else have JW Business Cards?

by Lemonp in

my cong has these business cards on the lit desk for maybe 2 months now, is this just something that they have done locally or is this a org wide thing?

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there are two different types we have, this is the front and back of one of them..

joe134cd

My my I just can't get over how things are changing.

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

joe134cd

Steve= I agree this is only going to confirm their persecution complex.

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The new LDC / RBC Requirements

by DwainBowman in

the new ldc / rbc.

requirements.

there are many requirements, but when you get to the end of the form.

joe134cd

I remember there was a brother in my congregation who was a substitute CO and I remember publicly voicing my disapproval of this. Actually I felt sorry for him and his wife, as the guy had a mortgage and a good paying job to maintain, yet he was at the beck and call to drop everything from one week to the next when an existing Co couldn't make an appointment.

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Family gathering before disfellowshiping

by Mattieu in

if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

joe134cd

I can see this from 2 perspectives here. (1) although this kind of goes against JWS S.O.P and is kind of ironic. However (2) from a cultural point of view and with my brief encounters with the Lebanese community, where it's common for close family ties. I can understand it.

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questions

by DanielC in

i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

joe134cd

Daniel what I would suggest would be in the most kind and frank way to show her what is written to your question, and ask for comment. If she is the girl for you then this needs to be discussed in the most open and honest way, regardless of it source. If you get the reply of mentally diseased apostate then you will know where you stand on the issue. After all a solid relationship is based on good communication.

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questions

by DanielC in

i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

joe134cd

I've been thinking over night about how I would reply to you so I'm going to give you a bit of advise from a person who has just recently left after 4 decades in the religion. I'm so glad that when I left that I had never married in the religion. Leaving was a heavy burden for me and I am absolutely convinced if a spouse and kids had also been involved it would of put me in a psychiatric ward. Every day I have to carry with me what I know and in some ways I wish I hadn't gone down this road. But what I know is done and cannot be reversed . Even though I'm not married to a JDub because I still have family (it would break my father's heart if he knew how i felt) and financial ties I'm forced to keep my mouth shut and suffer in silence. This is an example of a case I read on here just recently and if anyone has the link please include it. Young girl (mid 20s) who although never a witness had family connections and decided to join the religion. After a year or so of studying decided to marry her boyfriend - and probably a guy she wouldn't of married had it not been for the religion. Making spiritual progress and almost to the point of baptism when the bomb shell drops and decides to research the religion on the internet. So here she is married to guy who she probably wouldn't of and finds out that the religion isn't what it says it is. She's then having please explain sessions with elders and having it all explained away with stock standard answers of pray, study, field service more/ human imperfection/ new light etc. More than likely if she voices her concern in the congregation would be unofficially shunned and labeled an apostate. Unfortunately she never posted again so I don't know what happened but you can imagine the situation she is in. Thankfully and to your credit you have seen both sides of the coin early on, so you know what you are getting into and if it dose come back to bite you, you can't say you weren't toldm

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Family gathering before disfellowshiping

by Mattieu in

if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

joe134cd

Sparrowdown are you in Australia.

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questions

by DanielC in

i've been dating a jw girl for about 4 years and we've recently had a lot of issues with the fact that her family doesn't like that i'm not a jw.

i've been looking into the religion and am interested in it.

but is it wrong to join just so i don't lose her?

joe134cd

Daniel time and time again I've seen various ones on this board who are left picking up the pieces after a relationship soured with a JW partner. Think very hard.