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Watchtower 34th Biggest company in NY

by JH in

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http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-biz-nytop100private.story.

34th biggest company in new york.

watchtower bible & tract society of new york .

Roddy

>>when you consider that the wt literally sits on top of billions of dollars in cash and assets and has never in thier 130yr history built One hospital anywhere in the world, they have Never opened one college, high school or elementary school anywhere on the face of the earth, the have no abuse center for the community, the wt society has never bought one old yellow school bus so that folks in africa could get not to the WEKLY meetings each week, but to a DISTRICT CONVENTION JUST ONCE A YEAR at least they could rent a yellow school but NOT EVEN A GREYHOUND, but a yellow bus to take the old and sick to the district, instead here you have a BILLION dollar company bragging about the fact that it's members MUST WALK FOR DAYS TO GET TO THIER SALES MEETING<<

Oh, but they built the nice Patterson Educational Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets renamed "Watchtower University" some day. LOL Oh, and there is the Patterson Inn where weary travelers can come in and sleep.

You know what gets me? Brothers and sisters giving-up thousands of dollars to build kingdom halls and then the elders, unknown to the brothers, transfer ownership to the WTS instead of the local congregation. So when I see that the WTS has close to a billion dollars in assets - I wouldn't be surprised if a good portion of that is kingdom halls, assembly halls, and other property bought by private fund but signed-over to the WTS by the elders and traveling overseers.

Oh, and when the WTS cried for interest free loans, the brotherhood opened their wallets and purses. But when congregations ask the WTS for loans, the WTS will loan the congregation money with interest!

Gets me mad that I was so blind!

Edited by - Roddy on 23 December 2002 19:8:43

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Another good letter of disassociation

by Dogpatch in

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another good letter of disassociation:.

go louise!.

december 21, 2002. .

Roddy

One has to wonder what the letter openers at the WTS could be made of to read letters like this? Don't they wonder what's going on? Or do they get rotated out for 'rest and relaxation' or perhaps therapy? The WTS must be getting many letters of disassociation, complaints, etc.

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They Will Betray One Another

by Shakita in

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i have read the stories of those that have been unceremoniously drummed out of the watchtower, even though they were making an effort to live quietly, without causing "trouble" by telling their friends and relatives of the wt what they really knew about the true history of the jw's.

the wt's claim that they don't disfellowship those that have left the faith, is a vicious lie.

it has been disturbing to me and my wife to hear of such good people being ostracized just because they no longer agree with the wt's interpretation of scripture.

Roddy

>>You know, what the rank and file doesn't know won't hurt them.<<

Unfortunately, what the rank and file doesn't know does hurt them too. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The WTS loves the power both ways.

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Anything new on Barbara Anderson's case?

by Gamaliel in

can anyone give any details on what to expect next in barbara anderson's case?.

i just read about the questioning of how a woman got into a researcher position at bethel.

i have a few questions on this myself, based on the level of involvement i've heard claimed.

Roddy

>>Barb told us she wrote the article years ago, on FGM (female genital mutilation). After it was approved, it was sent to an African branch for final proofing, for accuracy. When it was published the article said this "from our correspondent in Nigeria (or whatever country it was)". She didn't expect any credit, but it made it sound like they wrote it. They proofread it and made no adjustments. <<

I remember that article! It was front page cover story. It shocked me. What a barbaric custom.

So that was her's but she got no credit? That was sad. Very well written! If you get a chance to write her, I convey my congrats. Anyway, at the very least, it gave FGM publicity and awareness among JWs and those that got that Awake article.

Did she write other articles? How about other sisters?

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Judge Bans Shunning

by Farkel in

today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.

as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.

the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.

Roddy

Shunning is the WTS' only teeth and claws. Remove them and from the command chain beginning at the WTS ivory tower and down, even down to the elders, become nothing but paper tigers!

Power to the people!

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Judge Bans Shunning

by Farkel in

today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.

as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.

the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.

Roddy

>>"In summary, shunning must cease immediately because these children have already been harmed by the practice. Though the Jehovah's Witness Church has the right to shun certain individuals, in this case, the practice has damaged small children. <<

That should also put a chill on the WTS insistance in baptising minors thereby forcing them to live by rules and regulations they don't know about, forced upon them contrary to their emotions, and entirely at the cold whim of elders and higher-ups!

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My bethel application

by Elsewhere in

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i only did the two week temp thing, but i still had to fill out a long application and send it back.

one of the questions that stands out in my mind was something to the effect of: "do you believe that the organization of jehovah's witnesses is god's sole spirit directed organization on earth?

when i read that, i felt a strange sensation.

Roddy

>>"Do you believe that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is God's sole spirit directed organization on earth?"<<

Isn't that the WTS Legal Dept inspired sentense that is used as the litmus test of a JW's loyalty?

I belive this is the sentense used in JC meetings too. If you say 'yes', then you lost all defense and the elders can basically lead you like a horse anyway they want you to go. If you say 'no', then you not only lost your defense, you're out.

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WTS and ISBN

by Roddy in

i've been curious about something.

anyone has speculation or fact why the wts doesn't register their books with the isbn?

(www.isbn.org) every book worth anything carries an isbn number.

Roddy

>>Probably another attempt to isolate themselves from the "World"<<

True. But someone told me that a most likely reason is because the WTS really doesn't like their publications to be "remembered".

As a publishing company, what the WTS fears the most is her own publications. ISBN cataloging also subjects published work to archiving, such as the Library of Congress and other mega libraries around the world. Whatever the WTS prints today she will have to hope people will forget about tomorrow, or worse, hope she doesn't have to defend or explain a reversal or answer criticism that she is regurgitating the same old material over and over again!

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WTS and ISBN

by Roddy in

i've been curious about something.

anyone has speculation or fact why the wts doesn't register their books with the isbn?

(www.isbn.org) every book worth anything carries an isbn number.

Roddy

>I guess you have to pay a fee to the ISBN-Organization. And it only makes sense when orders are taken through the normal book store. As we all know this is not the usual way of selling WT literature.<<

Perhaps but it is a small fee as even small publishers ISBN their works. Must be for act of getting your work cataloged and issued a catalog number.

The WTS is a billion dollar corporation.

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Printing to be moved out of Brooklyn Bethel

by cyberguy in

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today, a friend of mine told me that a letter was read at his last service meeting, that brooklyn bethel was moving all printing operations to watchtower farms (if that's what they sill call it).

has anyone else heard about this?

i suspect that this move might be a way to downsize brooklyn bethel, perhaps with the idea that they can start selling much of their large, high-value estates in brooklyn, to compensate for their decreasing donations.

Roddy

>> Today, a friend of mine told me that a letter was read at his last Service Meeting, that Brooklyn Bethel was moving all printing operations to Watchtower Farms (if that's what they sill call it). Has anyone else heard about this? <<

Yes, it is true. It's been in the grapevine for over a year. Even longer.

>>I suspect that this move might be a way to downsize Brooklyn Bethel, perhaps with the idea that they can start selling much of their large, high-value estates in Brooklyn, to compensate for their decreasing donations.<<

As the Olympics coming in ten years and the Big Apple most likely to get it, all those high-value estates will go up in value. And let's admit it, their Brooklyn properties are prime. A great deal is either waterfront or prime skyline view. They can rake in millions just on rentals. I really doubt they will sell. I think they will rent. But if they do sell, then we are talking MEGA millions!

You can also bet on Bethel layoffs. You won't hear it, of course. But the poor idiots that gave up on college and career to serve for years in Bethel will get the royal boot with no severence. I don't know if to laugh or take pity for them while the WTS laughs all the way to the bank.