jgnat - I often find in life, some people do not like it when they are presented with 'difficult' questions that do not align with their stance on any given subject.
I have also found that, with certain types of people, they also do not like it when others do not wholeheartedly agree with their perspectives.
cherry picking and copying some of my comments out of context of the original conversation on my personal views of a topic, whereby all of the actual facts are not presented, which therefore in itself makes the basis for the discussion disingenious, speaks volumes for me.
Of course there are many, many variants of child abuse and abusers and settings and situations surrounding such abuses. which is why I unequivocably state that in my opinion, adult child abusers, the definition of a paedophile, who lust after, and inflict torture and sexual abuse, anally or vaginally, on children, should be put to death, or the other alternative is to ship them off to a an isolated island and let them form their own society amongst themselves. Thereby eliminating any chance of re-offending and repeating their 'crime', thus protecting children. Mrya Hindley and Brady, Fred and Rose West, Jimmy Saville etc.. the list is endless, and so is the list of 'victims' whose lives are totally destroyed and they carry a life sentence themseslves for the horrors inflicted on them. The primary focus should be on the 'child' no-one else. The child is the victime, the child suffers, adults are supposed to protect chilren from any and all harm as best they can.
Forgiveness ? By whose standards ? Religions ? which religion is the 'true' religion ? Yet these same 'religions' don't practice what they preach. (as organisations and as individuals). Probably now someone will take the mentality that I am a God/Jesus/bible hating atheist, because my opinion conflicts with their opinion. As people like to make assumptions.
Jesus said keep the commandments, but I guess the commandments can easily be ignored by many professed christians, as we regularly see in society, time and time again. For examle, abusive priests, that beat children to death, repeatedly rape children, get re-located from area to area where they repeat the process. Thankfully the truth is now out in the open, about the amount of 'cover-ups' and 'compliance'. But, the trail of devastaion left in the wake of abuse, involves 'victims' whose lives are never the same. Never have I ever once in general society heard a conflicting discussion whereby paedophiles should recieve protection or treatment. I guess it depends on what types of people you are involved with in society.
I don't care a jot for any paedophile (adult abuser of innocent children), I care more for the vicitms and the devastation it inflicts on them. I hope this makes it clear, and explains it adequately.