this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
so sad. But as they say ''the truth will out''.
Gosh, what a tough spot for you to be in. But they made their own bed.
and if you get disfellowshipped, it won't be your problem, as they have cast you out.
It always boggles my brain how 'families' can be so cruel.
hugs
i stumbled across this today and found it rather interesting.
espescially as there is sometimes controversy over the nisan 14 date.. paschal full moon.. refers to the ecclesiastical full moon of the northern spring to determine the date of easter.
a full moon is a lunar phase that occurs when the moon is on the opposite side of the earth from the sun.. the moon is in opposition with the sun.. babylonian astronomy.. according to asger asaboe - the origins of western astronomy can be found in mesopotamia and all western efforts in the exact sciences are descendants in direct line from the work of the babylonian astronomers.. chaldeans were the astronomers of mesopotamia, who were, in reality, priest scribes specialising in astronomy and other forms of divination.
this from www.abarim-publications.com
Samson (shemesh) sun
(the meaning of the root is unknown)
The sun is mentioned well over a hundred times in the OT, in all kinds of usages.
Surrounding nations worshipped the sun but Israel was stictly told not to (Duet 4:19)
although respectful parallels with the Living God were certainly drawn (Psalm 84:11)
The sun is a mighty creature but ultimately God has it in His hands. (josh10:13. Ex 10:21-29)
The name Samson is the word shemesh postfixed with the waw-nun extension.
This extension personifies or localises the root:
the name Samson means Sun Man.
It should eb noted that the proverbial sunny impression of the sun in our culture is not shared by that of ancient Israel,
the weather was viewed differently than in our industrial age.
A sunny day was not greeted with more or less enthusiam than a rainy day.
The motion of the sun was the prime measure of time.
The sun stood symbol for God's glory (Psalm 148:3) but it could kill when there was not shelter (Jonah 4:8)
For a meaning of the name Samson NOBS study Bible name List reads a modest Sun-like
the email said :.
sent: wednesday, july 17, 2013 8:49:21 pm.
subject: un demands answers from vatican on child sex abuse - sudbury - cbc news.
Logcon
Their prophecy may come true, UN turning on all religious organisations .. because of the child abuse issues.
deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!
i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.
but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.
Labellicker
I have spent time thinking of this also. There is so much confusion in the world now, no trust, no honesty, no justice ( I guess it is the same as it always was, but as 'Christians' we see the good more than the bad, until it slaps us round the face ... preoper hard)
I too was a bit confused over the Two Witnesses. (confused about much actually )
I think your right about the Two Witnesses becoming known near the time of the end, as you say. Good topic.
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
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i know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
Doggone, I have no desire to get into a personal dispute with you on difference of opinions on what should be done with child abusers.
you appear to take issue with my opinion, on a personal level.
This is a discussion forum, not everyone agrees on the same things, and people will make comments others will not agree on.
some will feel more passionate than others on certain topics.
edited to add:
I hope you are not taking my comments as a direct personal attack, I apologise if that is what you think. It is not the case.
Child abuse is is what finally opened my eyes to the WT, and is why I got out.
i feel like i'm awkard in social situations.
i hate going up and talking to people i don't know.
i have trouble making friends.
lois - lol, love your honesty
Yes it affected my life.
Secluding oneself socially.
Being the 'good girl' making sacrifices, missing out on opportunities, giving up college, giving up 'life'.
Staying in marriage and putting up with stuff i never would of. Staying with husband when I should of left.
Cost me financially, cost me and my kids mentally and emotionally, for staying with this man.
All because of being a good jw. Wait on je-hovah, pray, forgive etc.
Christ, how I wish I could go back in time.
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
mp buddy - you keep getting my comments confused with Cold Steel lol
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
DeWan
i know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
Why do you continuosly 'twist' what I say, and try and turn it into something it is not ?
I have repeatedly made my opinion clear, and the definition, to make sure that there is clarity on the mattter.
I think you will find if there was a survey, the vast majority of society would agree with the stance I have taken.
My tone of writing ? how do come to that conclusion ?
You see therein lies the problem. How you choose to view something.
I didn't bring up your personal details regarding your family and the abuse your children suffered and the details, you did.
I didn't say 'you jehovist' or 'you catholics' . My statement, of my opinion, included those two organisations as an example,
because their crimes and cover-ups are well documented and evidenced.
One could take the view that possibly you feel guilty, your child was abused, under your care, you decided to forgive the abuser. Possibly you have some inner feelings of conflict. possibly your asking yourself if you did the right thing, or are confused within about the whole situation.
Or possibly you are looking for sympathy.
Not saying that those points have merit, just giving an example of how things can be mis-construed.
You see how it goes, people think differently and have different opinions, opinions aren't really worth a whole lot at the end of the day.
I fail to see how which country one lives in is relevant to crime and punishment.
Justice should prevail. The 'weak' in society should be protected, that should be evey persons moral duty.
I didn't say 'kill them all'.
