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  NINE REVERSALS IN JULY 15TH WATCHTOWER

  by The Searcher in

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  here's what i scavenged from the most notable watchtower i've ever read.

  it may be far more significant than many people realise!.

  and before anyone whinges that one or two are 'old light', the fact remains that all of them are rejecting what was once 'inspired truth' from the revered fds, and disagreeing with any one of these (now current) falsehoods would have resulted in your "stoning to death" and shunning by all whom you loved.

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  observador

  I love par. 13.

  "Who, then, are the domestics? Put simply, they are those who are fed."

  "Later, the domestics came to include the great crowd of other sheep."

  "What about the Governing Body members who today make up the faithful and discreet slave? Those brothers also need to be fed spiritually.

  Hence, they humbly recognize that as individuals they are domestics just like all the rest...".

  WOW! Everyone is "domestic". If that's the case, why going through so many hoops to say so? Those guys are lost, only explanation I have.

  These articles may not be ground-shaking, but it was stuff like that that made me question the whole thing.
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  Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause “immediate irreparable harm and hardship”

  by cedars in

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  2. child-abuse

  a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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  Cedars,

  Thanks for writing this article. It's always good to be informed of the developments in these cases.

  I see a few exagerations in your article:

  1. As some viewes here have already said, the Paterson property would not be "on the line". Patterson would just be a guarantee that the money would be paid.

  2. This Conti case has not "set a precedent", YET. We just hope that the WT Society loses on appeal and the actual award is finally paid. Then a precedent would be set.

  3. The "world is looking on", is quite a bit of exageration, Cedars. The only world that is looking on is the world of "apostates", meaning us. The WT Society is mostly irrelevant to the real world.

  We just keep dreaming that one day the WT Society will pay a substantial sum of money that will make to the rolling ticker at the bottom of our TV screens, exposing them a little, and causing them some real financial harm. Until then all we can do is speculate and dream that this will happen.
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  Rodney King dead at age 47

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  was brought up as a jw by his mother, who told him not to talk about race in court.. .

  http://www.examiner.com/article/rodney-king-victim-of-lapd-brutality-that-sparked-la-riots-dead-at-age-47.

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  "Can't we just have one thread with this topic?"

  I was unware that there was more than one thread for the topic. However, this article mentions his JW connections. The article also mentions an NPR interview in which his JW link is also mentioned.

  The NPR interview link is here: http://www.npr.org/2012/04/23/150985823/rodney-king-comes-to-grips-with-the-riot-within

  So, two independent sources for his JW connections.

  Observador.
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  Rodney King dead at age 47

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  was brought up as a jw by his mother, who told him not to talk about race in court.. .

  http://www.examiner.com/article/rodney-king-victim-of-lapd-brutality-that-sparked-la-riots-dead-at-age-47.

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  Was brought up as a JW by his mother, who told him not to talk about race in court.

  http://www.examiner.com/article/rodney-king-victim-of-lapd-brutality-that-sparked-la-riots-dead-at-age-47
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  when you were in, could you imagine yourself in the new system?

  by breathing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never could, like some others described, i could never ever see myself there, i just couldnt imagine it at all,.

  i wonder if that was a sign that deep down i didnt believe it?.

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  Yes, I tried to imagine myself in the "new system" but the thought wouldn't last more than a few seconds.

  Imagine a horse pulling cart. How was the cart made? With bare hands? Hardly. It was made using tools, of course. Which tools? Probably metal tools. But, wait a minute? Where are those tools made? By whom? Do you have any idea how dirty and filthy a metal tool shop is?

  Also, think of a plowshare. Where is it made? How? By whom?

  What's the difference between a plowshare and a GPS-enabled soil-cutting machine? Basically, none. The latter is simply a natural progression of the former. How long would the perfect brain people living in the "new system" come to that realization? How long do think would take for those people to start improving their tools?

  So, the more I thought about the new system, the more it looked like the old one.

  Ahh, and all that talk about communal living philosophy? Forget it. Communism has fallen in the world for a reason. It simply didn't work.

  Obsevador.
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  End of the world is May 21, 2011

  by observador in

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  2. beliefs

  hi guys,.

  have you heard of this group?

  take a look at the article.. it's amazing that journalists don't even mention the jw organization in this type of article, despite a rich history of this type of prediction and the number of followers in the us... just shows how irrelevant this organization has become.. article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110103/ap_on_re/us_rel_apocalypse_soon.

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  Now, look at this sentence:

  "If May 21 passes and I'm still here, that means I wasn't saved. Does that mean God's word is inaccurate or untrue? Not at all," Warden said.

  I don't know, but it sure sounds a lot like Russel preparing a escape door if things don't happen, huh?

  Observador.
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  End of the world is May 21, 2011

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys,.

  have you heard of this group?

  take a look at the article.. it's amazing that journalists don't even mention the jw organization in this type of article, despite a rich history of this type of prediction and the number of followers in the us... just shows how irrelevant this organization has become.. article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110103/ap_on_re/us_rel_apocalypse_soon.

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  observador

  Hi guys,

  have you heard of this group? Take a look at the article.

  It's amazing that journalists don't even mention the JW organization in this type of article, despite a rich history of this type of prediction and the number of followers in the US... just shows how irrelevant this organization has become.

  Article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110103/ap_on_re/us_rel_apocalypse_soon

  Very entertaining...
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  Autism

  by ProdigalSon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the subject has come up in my reincarnation thread and i think its worthy of its own.. when i saw the movie "rain man", what amazed me the most about what raymond was able to do (i.e., counting the number of matches in a matchbox after a glance, or memorizing all the names and numbers in a large phone book in a matter of minutes) was that it proves that a human mind is capable of performing the functions of a computer and more.

  why then, do we not a: all have these supercomputer abilities, and b., why is an autistic person lacking in other areas such as social skills?

  my second son was born in 1992 with a lipoma on his tail bone which was also wrapped around his spinal cord.

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  Thank you, Nugget. Good comments there. Little by little we're learning to cope.
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  Autism

  by ProdigalSon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the subject has come up in my reincarnation thread and i think its worthy of its own.. when i saw the movie "rain man", what amazed me the most about what raymond was able to do (i.e., counting the number of matches in a matchbox after a glance, or memorizing all the names and numbers in a large phone book in a matter of minutes) was that it proves that a human mind is capable of performing the functions of a computer and more.

  why then, do we not a: all have these supercomputer abilities, and b., why is an autistic person lacking in other areas such as social skills?

  my second son was born in 1992 with a lipoma on his tail bone which was also wrapped around his spinal cord.

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  Hi everyone.

  Interesting thread here. My daughter has been diagnosed with Asperger's. I have read quite a bit about this, but have seen little information relating AS with physhical agressiveness.

  My daughter can become very agressive when she gets frustrated with something. Her brain seems to get blocked by this feeling. She seems to be unable to measure the consequences. She can be sweet in a moment; out of control in the next moment. She's now 11.

  In fact, it was this high level of agressivity that led us to start counseling sessions. Little did we know that this would lead to the Asperger diagnosis.

  How commonly linked is Asperger to agressiveness? How to better handle this? Is there anger management therapy specific for Asperger's kids?
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  Those that just one day - were not there anymore

  by just n from bethel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i, like otwo in another thread, never really had a bad experience with jws.

  i never had any case of molestation come up in the the many congregations i served in.

  i never had any major beefs with any elder body.

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  observador

  Your post highlights one interesting point: in the JW religion, only a few people can think. All the others have to follow.

  That's one of the reasons I left.