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  Hemopure = blood

  by undercover in

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  if it's made from blood, then it has blood particles in it.

  if you're gonna adhere to some bible law that says no blood, shouldn't anything that contains blood parts be included?

  but now it's okay to use hemopure or other particles of blood.

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  Isn't it hipocritical to say you can't take transfusions of human blood but you can now take infusions of highly purified cow blood?
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  Definition of a cult

  by reubenfine in

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  i know the dictionary's definition of a cult, but i came up with my own: "a group of people who don't allow freedom of information or freedom of speech.

  " the dubs obviously qualify.

  a cult has to be a dictatorship to keep this kind of control.

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  Pretty accurate description. For more info check this out...

  http://www.goldhammer.com/characte.htm

  Edited by - stichione on 9 October 2002 13:56:33
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  Neighbor told a JW off !1

  by mommy1 in

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  my neighbor told me today that last saturday the witnesses had been on our street.

  i wasn't home at the time.

  he said he told them about the dateline program and that he had seen the silent lambs web site.

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  Don't forget to count your time witnessing against the Witnesses!
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  CoC on Hold for Me

  by out4good3 in

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  got a copy of crisis of conscious 2nd ed.

  on hold for me at a library.

  will most likely be picking it up tommorrow after i get off from work.

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  Wait till you get to the chapters where Raymond Franz is retroactively df'd for having a meal with a da'd person who happens to be his employers and landlord. He was in the sights of the WTS and wanted him out of the Borg at all costs.
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  What is an Elder?

  by footprints in

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  because this site has taken a survey of past or current elders and posted a list, i think it is important to make it clear that: not one elder was appointed by holy spirit.. current and ex elders are no more special or important than anyone else.

  in fact some are a lot less trustworthy than the average.. .

  on this note i would like to hear from all of you two things:.

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  I agree with everything amazing said (isn't he amazing?). To add, I remember one MS in my congregation who was illiterate, couldn't pronouce the TH sound when speaking or reading, was an eager-beaver always willing to please, a definite YESYESYES man, and would laught at every stupidity that would come out of the mouth of our PO that was meant as a joke. The definition brown-noser in the dictionary would have his picture beside it. And it worked, he made Elder within less than two years although in my opinion wasn't fit to tie his shoelaces.

  5 years later he still can't pronounce the TH sound when speaking or reading.

  Edited by - stichione on 8 October 2002 19:36:59
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  Now this is really pathetic

  by xenawarrior in

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  spent my day working a job fair here, recruiting potential workers.

  talking to folks all day at our booth.

  and guess who was also "recruiting" at this job fair?

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  They're inovative. People aren't home anymore. So I guess a job fair is a fine place to meet people. Did they pay an entrance fee too?
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  WTS puts foot in mouth and downplays sacrifices

  by stichione in

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  in a watchtower magazine article of september 1, 1951 entitled "hated for his name", an era of 10 persecution of christians is discussed.

  but just to show how little insight the writer of this article shows, it goes on stating:.

  -it is said that in the year 95 alone some 40,000 suffered martyrdom.

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  In a Watchtower magazine article of September 1, 1951 entitled "Hated for his name", an era of 10 persecution of Christians is discussed. But just to show how little insight the writer of this article shows, it goes on stating:

  -It is said that in the year 95 alone some 40,000 suffered martyrdom

  -In a single month 17,000 were slain

  -In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such professed Christians died by violence in addition to another 700,000 who died as a result of fatigues encountered in banishment or under enforced public works

  The figures above total 901,000 and represent only the larger numbers of executed Christians, not the killings that occurred in small and isolated pockets here and there. These died faithful to Christ because they refused to compromise, or were killed simply for being Christians.

  The same article goes on to say:

  And is it the same today? The experiences of Jehovah's witnesses would seem to prove it so. In the same manner as with Christians of the first few centuries they have been falsely labeled as seditionists, Nazis, communists, capitalist American spies, and generally 'haters of everything', depending upon where they happen to be and whatever will make them the most readily unpopular. But the facts prove their accusers the haters and their acts simply a fulfillment of part of Jesus' great prophecy for these last days: "You will be hated by all the nations on account of my name."

  Nice so far, right? No, because the letters, comments and telephone calls must have started to come in fast, because only 4 months later the WTS printed this Question from readers in the January 1st 1952 Watchtower magazine:

  *** w52 1/15 62 Questions from Readers ***
  According to the article "Hated for His Name" in the September 1, 1951, Watchtower, hundreds of thousands of Christians died in the "ten persecutions" starting in Nero's time, 144,000 dying in Egypt alone during one of the persecutions. How can this be harmonized with the Scriptural limitation of 144,000 placed on the number being in Christ's body, and which position was the only one open to Christians during those centuries?-J.A., Dominican Republic.
  The article did not class with any finality the individuals that died during these persecutions, but spoke of the results in a general way. Note that a key qualification was made in the case referred to in the question: "In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such professed Christians died by violence in the course of this persecution, in addition to another 700,000 who died as a result of fatigues encountered in banishment or under enforced public works." The victims are identified as "professed Christians", not Christians in fact. Many of those persons might have been caught in the wave of persecution, but may never have actually preached the truth or followed in Jesus' footsteps, being only professed Christians. They knew the world they lived in was rotten and they were listening to the message of the Christians and willing to die for it even though not in line for the high calling in Christ Jesus. Many professed Christians today might be willing to die for their faith, but still not be Jesus' footstep followers and meeting the Scriptural requirements for such.

  Imagine that! The article of Sept. 1951 actually means that those who died faithful to Christ were probably over 1 million during the first few centuries. So that if 144,000 was a literal number for the maximum number of people going to heaven, then it would have been reached by the end of the first century. But that can't be so!!! So they had to backpeddle past to keep the 144,000 teaching as the correct one.

  Its sad that they make comments like "but may never have actually preached the truth or followed Jesus footsteps, being only professed Christians". It belittles their sacrifice they made to live a Christian life and to die by it.

  Edited by - stichione on 7 October 2002 22:3:13
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  another sign of the end

  by comforter in

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  sniper shootings.

  these people sick.

  but it shows the end is near.

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  This definitely proves that Armageddon is just around the corner, soon to come, only a little while longer, just a few short months, not years,...
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  OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHA

  by FiveShadows in

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  when i saw this...i couldn't stop laughing...and the funny thing is...this is actually real in mount shasta california.

  ~fs.

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  What have YOU been smoking!
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  Fear, Ignorance, and the Awake Magazine

  by metatron in

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  the new awake magazine is a classic example of the purpose.

  of watchtower propaganda.

  the nov. 22 issue is entitled.

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  this type of propaganda suits the WTS's teachings. It teaches it's mindless drones that science cannot solve mankind's problems, but instead that only God's govenment, through the earthly direction of the Faithful and Indiscreet Slave class, can.