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Convention “Highlights” - bwhahaha!

by Muddy Waters in

jw
friends

taking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .

(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).

but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.

undercover

"Dinner" always served in the massive tents they set up and cost 65 cents. Some cheap-ass cola as part of the meal. "Tables constructed of pieces of plywood. You stood when you ate. Pioneers ate free. The smell of the steam cleaning they used to clean the trays.

My very first convention memory was at an International assembly, where food was served in the large tents and you stood at makeshift plywood tables. Sawdust on the ground. The smell of bulk cooked food, plywood and sawdust all intermingled together under those huge tents. I was so young, I could not reach the table top, I had to hold my plate and try to negotiate holding it and eating with out spilling on my little boy suit. And then reach up to the table top to get my drink, without spilling it.

It's a memory seared into my mind, and now as we describe those memories, it doesn't sound like we're describing part of a Worldwide Brotherhood meal experience, it sounds more like a refugee camp.

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Convention “Highlights” - bwhahaha!

by Muddy Waters in

jw
friends

taking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .

(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).

but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.

undercover

-- Let's send some poor schlub (me!) walking around the seats, carrying a Styrofoam cooler with 40 or 50 burgers, offering them to whoever had enough "food tickets" to buy one

Oh man, you just brought back memories for me... when I was a teenager, I was in 'expediting'. We took all the cooked food from the kitchens to the concession stands. I remember the styrofoam coolers filled with burgers, sandwiches, etc. The smell...the smell... the horror... the horror. I bet Colonel Kurtz worked in JW convention foodservice before he went nuts in the jungle.

75

Rock band titles from JW history / culture

by sir82 in

jw
friends

on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

green bible dinosaurs.

jezebel and the fornicators.

undercover

Apologies if someone already named these (too many good ones to remember them all)

The Overlappers (classic rock)

Flaming Sword (R&B)

Dog Vomit Return (metal)

Michael and the Arch Angels (beach/shag)

Spirit of the World (country)

48

Adam and the Dinosaurs

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

here is a fascinating subject.

according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

undercover

Adam and the Dinosaurs

Good name for a punk rock band

33

How To Fade Away Cleanly?

by SplaneThisToMe in

jw
friends

this is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.

i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.

i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.

undercover

I have asked my COBE to delete me as a ministerial servant and I have made him aware that I don't plan to attend meetings or participate in field service any more. The elders are aware that I had doubts before and that I was planning to leave. It seems as though they are going to allow me to fade away into inactivity as long as I don't disrupt the congregation with apostasy.

Hope it works for you, but don't be surprised if they pull the rug out from underneath. These may be good guy elders, not wanting to push an issue, but when the CO comes along and reviews records, it could all change. You haven't gotten off scot-free. Watch your back trail, don't get complacent, don't expect to skate away unscathed.

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Is it really possible to disprove the Watchtower?

by Coded Logic in

dear brothers and sisters,.

considering the end is so near at hand we thought it important for to reiterate that it's absolutely impossible to prove god's "one true organisation" wrong.

there is nothing on heaven or earth that could ever be shown to be false or incorrect in our entire .

undercover

It's easy to disprove the WTS's teachings.

What's not easy is getting brainwashed believers to accept the proof and the facts.

13

Beard criticism - NOT from JWs

by neat blue dog in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5074637/amp/prince-harry-breaks-military-rules-wearing-beard.html.

undercover

Most branches of the military have strict grooming rules. Some large US companies have strict grooming rules. The New York Yankees baseball team doesn't allow facial hair period.

If you're an employee, you can quit. It might not be prudent, depending on the perks of the company, but you won't be shunned for finding another job.

If you're in the military, you don't have to sign back up once your time is done, and again, no one will shun you because you moved on.

If you're a Yankee, you know going in the deal. If it's a deal breaker, you can always sign with the Red Sox. And still the Yankee players won't shun you.

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When did "The Last Days" of JW Organization Begin? Will This Generation See It End?

by steve2 in

a growing discourse on this forum has been around what "the end" means.

as jws, many here spent varying proportions of our lives waiting for the end when an unsettling realization was that the end that approaches is more likely to be from old age than the world's end.

through the centuries, group after group, has claimed it has "inside" information on the end of the world, drawing in the desperate-for-comfort like moths to flames.

undercover

I'll go with 1995 and the 'generation change'. The WTS managed to avoid total ship jumping after 1975, by keeping people fooled with the generation of 1914. Okay, so the end wasn't in 75, but it'll happen in the next 20 or so years. When that doctrine went belly up, I think it sent a ripple through the ranks. Not an outright revolt right away, but a definite sense of urgency was lost. The end was delayed. Why kill ourselves? Let's relax a little. And that allowed other interests in, which detracted from the World Wide Work.

Add to that the Internet, and suddenly all kinds of information and knowledge were at everyone's fingertips, it made it hard to cover up the failings, missed predictions, and downright stupidity of the past.

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Picture in latest Watchtower . . . What is it?

by neat blue dog in

in this picture from the latest watchtower, what in the world is the guy watching on the left side of the picture??

it looks like a female vampire holding a lightsaber.

am i missing something?.

undercover

The pic on the left looks like a movie/video game zombie.
The pic on the right is a zombie.

I logged in just so I could 'like' that comment.

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My unbelieving husband was offended by the WatchTower just studied

by Isambard Crater in

it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..

undercover

My unbelieving husband was offended by the WatchTower just studied

Any decent person would/should be.

If this Jehovah destroying the wicked to preserve his people was a TV show, then yea, maybe you can make a black and white case for killing the enemies. Not unlike watching The Walking Dead, and getting all exasperated with Jesus (character's name, not the 'real' Son of God) when he doesn't kill the Saviors, but cheering when Daryl takes out their enemies without hesitation. But that's TV. And it's not a real case scenario, it's the imagination of a graphic novel writer and TV writers. It's entertainment.

The WT writers aren't trying to entertain, they indoctrinating their followers to look at the real world in a black and white case. You're either a worshiper of Jehovah, or you're a wicked person, deserving of destruction. A byproduct of that is to occasionally offend a 'wicked' person. Too bad, just shows their heart isn't in the right place. Guess they'll be executed. Jesus (the 'real' one this time) on a white horse or Daryl on a motorcycle. Pick your preferred fairy tale...