Posts by Longlivetherenegades

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What's the job of an elder?

by asp59 in

with the current discussion if someone in his twenties can be elder or not.

i'm interested in what a elder in jw land really do.

all speeches already come in video format from headquarters.

It's a title that qualifies you for more work. But it gives you a deeper look at the "inside operation" of the Cult. Sometimes that appointment is what takes a sincere brother right out of the Troof

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From the WTBS to... CHURCHS???

by DoubtingThomas in

why?????

?.

Longlivetherenegades

Using WATCHTOWER own Response as captured in their magazine of July 2013....

Suppose you need to have surgery for a life-threatening illness. You would want to have the utmost confidence in the surgeon, since your life will be in his hands. Would it not be prudent to review his record of experience?

Similarly, it is wise to examine religion carefully. If you belong to a religious organization, you are, in effect, putting your spiritual life in its hands. This includes your prospects for salvation....... July 1 2013

Why???????

1. WTBTS hands are not clean or safe

2. Prospects for SALVATION bleak.

3. Complete lack of trust and confidence in the 8 only men at the WTBTS HQs dishing out imperfect spiritual food that on the long term and run accumulates to POISONS that kills it members or leads them from WTBTS to CHURCHES

4. Review of past records and experience , revisionist records and experience, outlawed records and experience, past truth, present truth, future truth is making member become what the WTBTS calls APOSTATES and the following consequence is to move from WTBTS to CHURCHES.

5. Many became a member to find SOLUTION to the LIFE THREATENING problems they face only to find out in the long term and run how WORSENING their cases had become.

In summary WHY???? WTBTS pushed them to the CHURCHES😁😁😁😁😁

I hope with these few points of mine I am able to convince you and not to confuse you as to WHY?

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The Big Lie JW`s Tell The Courts !

by smiddy3 in

imho, its the one rodney spinks and terry o`brien parroting the governing body direction is that when somebody leaves the religion whether they just fade ,disassociate or even get disfellowshiped ,then they are in fact shunning all members of all congregations worldwide including family and friends ,.according to their testimony at the arc.. this is a blatant lie and misrepresents the truth,.and they know it.. when a person leaves the religion for whatever reason they are rejecting the governing body`s teachings ,doctrines and practices of the religion of jehovah`s witnesses and not all peoples associated within the congregations.. especially not family and friends who they may have long standing relationships with.. they try to shift the blame and put the onus on those who leave.. shame on them for perpetuating such a lie..

Longlivetherenegades

One wonders what difference it makes when they treat those they disfellowshipped equally as those who disassociated.

They know they were LYING. Since they already made it clear that disfellowshipped members are to be shunned. The Shunning comes from them since they say actions towards disfellowshipped members applies to disassociated members.

The worst is classing disassociated and disfellowshipped members as people actively leading others to sin.

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SETTING LIMITS ON HOW TO LOVE by the the Guardians of Our Doctrines (G. O. D)

by Longlivetherenegades in

a balanced view of jesus’ role.

like those in christendom, the early bible students mistakenly allowed their love for jesus to overshadow their relationship with jehovah.

beginning in 1919, however, they came to see that jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship.

Longlivetherenegades

A Balanced View of Jesus’ Role

Like those in Christendom, the early Bible Students mistakenly allowed their love for Jesus to overshadow their relationship with Jehovah. Beginning in 1919, however, they came to see that Jehovah and their relationship with him should be the focus of their worship. We can be thankful that we understand that our affection for Jesus is key to having a relationship with Jehovah. We must attach neither too much nor too little importance to our love for Jesus.—John 16:27...... Watchtower April 2020 study edition

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH?

Jesus said that one of the greatest commandments of God is to “love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31) Did Jesus place a limit on loving our neighbor based on where that neighbor lives or on what nationality he is? No. He told his disciples: “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:34, 35) Their love for one another would be so extraordinary that it would be an identifying mark. They would rather give their life for one another than to take life from others....... Watchtower July 1, 2013 (Can you trust religion and war)

Legislation on love at it's peak.

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The Watchtowers

by BluesBrother in

edit .. i messed up the title, on this touchscreen tablet and now i can’t edit it !

the title should be “ the watchtower’s (sort of) apology for 1975 ….. sorry.

january 1st 1976, i remember that day when i heard a radio disc jockey gleefully announce that the world had not ended as jehovah’s witnesses had said it would .

Longlivetherenegades

August 2019 Watchtower study article no. 31 title "WE DO NOT GIVE UP" Postponed expectations. Paragraph 9

We naturally long for the good things that Jehovah has promised. In fact, when Jehovah’s prophet Habakkuk expressed a yearning for Jehovah to bring an end to the wicked conditions in Judah, Jehovah instructed him to “keep in expectation.” (Hab. 2:3) However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations?

QUESTIONS

1. Who promisd the faithful ones of their heavenly reward in 1914?

2. Who delayed their expectations?

3. Who dampens the spirit of these faithful ones with unfulfilled promises?

4. Where in the scripture was it stated they will receive their promises in 1914?

@doubting Thomas this is for you....

Your religious masters talk but they don't follow what they say due to their SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995766

Saying that the churches teaches nothing goes into the realm of SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS. There is s church built behind my place of residence. They hardly put the name of the Jehovah’s witnesses on their lips in condemnation of them but can that be said of Jehovah's Witnesses who week in week out label them FALSE CHRISTIANS right from the beginning of the organization existence till today?

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No rational reasoning with cult elders

by UnshackleTheChains in

https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

Longlivetherenegades

This piece from the numerous videos about the ARC is legendary and should remain in the ARCHIVES. Mr Stewart basically answered on their behalf that it is an organization policy that shows that it is a captive organization and policy to keep those still within their grasp captive.

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No rational reasoning with cult elders

by UnshackleTheChains in

https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

Longlivetherenegades

@desirous of change

Shunning IS an act of TERRORISM 😂😂😂

Here is the evidence from the only religious organization on earth doing GOD'S WILL😂😂

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Do Jehovah's really have true Bible studies?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

frequently asked questions.

if i accept a bible study, will i be pressured to become one of jehovah’s witnesses?.

jehovah’s witnesses love teaching people about the bible, but we never pressure anyone to join our religion.

Longlivetherenegades

Right after telling them this then show the article that says JWs love to study the Bible with people. Demand your Bible study or let them know they have proved the Watchtower a liar...

Exactly @ truth b known

and see them get stucked lying for their masters

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Do Jehovah's really have true Bible studies?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

frequently asked questions.

if i accept a bible study, will i be pressured to become one of jehovah’s witnesses?.

jehovah’s witnesses love teaching people about the bible, but we never pressure anyone to join our religion.

Longlivetherenegades

Should you tell your Bible study conductor on day 1 you will never become a Jehovah’s witnesses. That's the end of the Bible study.

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An elder has just been employed at place of employment and I’m after a lonk

by joe134cd in

hello to all you good people.

an elder who i knew in my jw days has just been employed at my place of work.

now i want to be prepared for him when he encourages me to return to jehovah.

Longlivetherenegades

James 1:27 to the rescue.

Ask him, must you be a Jehovah’s witness to follow the content of that scripture?

Keep it mind that the key part that says

and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Ask him are JWs unstained from the world in their mode of operation throughout the years?