Posts by TheOldHippie

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BOE 2014-07-13 Appointment and deletion of elders and ministerial servants

by WatchTower87 in

2014-07-13 appointment and deletion of elders and ministerial servantsto all bodies of elders.

the link removed by request is also available at the forms link.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

TheOldHippie

Why is the heading and signature of the letter in Italian, and the text in English?

In a way, you are positioned up against the wall: You are more or less appointed and then asked these three questions, and if there are any past or present problems you would reply that Yes, there are some problems. OK, then the result will be questions on what problems etc., and suddenly you find yourself on the way to a JC.

Or you can reply that No, there are no problems - but Yes, there are reasons why the announcement should not be made, because I simply don't WANT to be appointed. But this "I don't want to" attitude seems not be covered. If there are no problems, you will be appointed "no matter what you fell about it". So the solution will have to be either reporting no more than 7-8 hours a month or being irregular at times ("regularly irregular").

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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

by Alfred in

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friends

(a little background info before i ask my question...).

my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

TheOldHippie

"She also mentioned that she especially dreads “Memorial” night because 35 or so JWs would suddenly show up at 9PM (when the restaurant is cleaning up just prior to closing for the day) and the restaurant employees would practically have to re-arrange the entire restaurant (only to set it up again for the next day)."

Poor restaurant - guests are coming!

In my area, due to too many restaurants hunting for the same small number of possible guests, restaurants would be shouting for joy if a bunch of 30-40 people came in. The problem of "too many guests" would hardly be understood.

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Jehovah's Witnesses took over my hotel in June (Please read).

by Joliette in

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there was a convention in milwaukee from june 20th-22nd.

the witnesses literally took over our hotel!

they were more demanding than i remember when i was a kid.

TheOldHippie

They were demanding coffee

- wow! Imagine, asking for coffee in a hotel! I wonder what will be the next thing they demand - food? Wow!

Also they were complaining about their bills; a lot of the bills did not have the correct J-dub discounts on them.

- Terrible! They bills were incorrect, they did not get the correct discount - and then they had the guts to COMPLAIN about the incorrect bills! Must be the baddest sort of people I have ever read about!

For one, I am overweight, and going through skin issues at the moment.

- And still the Witnesses complained? How utterly rude! Imagine, complaining in front of an overweight person!

He gave me a hug and kissed me in front of his pioneer wife!

- How disgusting! That hundreds of millions of Europeans and Latin Americans hug and kiss as a greeting, of course makes it even worse, and imagine - hugging in front of a pioneer! Terrible!

Wow, I understand you experienced the worst thing of your life. Ten times worse than the easy small things they experience in Syria, Palestine and elsewhere. Your life really must be a hard one. I admire your fight to endure this and put it behind you.

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Eight questions about Nathan Knorr

by Skimmer in

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friends

i have some questions about nathan knorr, the third president (1942-1977) of the wtbts.

accurate answers are welcome.. 1) how did it come about that knorr was made president of the wtbts in 1942 after the death of joseph rutherford?

rutherford as we know was an usurper inheritor of russell's wtbts in late 1916 after russell went to his reward.

TheOldHippie

Farkel,

I have those 1942 Consolation issues, and it makes a strange reading. A far cry from what would have been published today. Imagine close to a whole magazine quarrelling and name-calling the municipality authorities because of refusing the burial of the Judge. Or page upon page with congregations having voted and giving their allegiance to the new President.

Interesting reading.

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Speculation Fall AGM

by Poztate in

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a lot of comments have been made about possible big changes at the agm in the fall.. comments range from changes to the blood doctrine or who compose the one hundred and forty four thousand.. my speculation is.... (and if someone else had this kind of thread i am not stealing from you..just never read it).

the door to door as we know it will cease to exist.

the publishing of a monthly public wt and awake will end.. instead each month a tract with different subjects and a redirect to jw.org will come out.

TheOldHippie

Remember that 2/3 of the world's population have NO access to Internet. And where is the biggest growth? Yep. So door-to-door, Watchtower and Awake! are here to stay ...........

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WHEN WAS THE VERY LAST ARTICLE ON BLOOD IN EITHER THE WATCHTOWER OR THE AWAKE?

by steve2 in

there's been a buzz on this forum - on and off but currently on - that there has not been an article in any watchtower publication on the blood ban for a while - which feeds speculation that the organization is distancing itself from this doctrinal absurdity.

does that mean there's been nothing mentioned about the blood doctrine for months or years?

specifically, when did the watchtower last mention the blood ban?

TheOldHippie

Why don't you check it out the easy way? http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/h/r3/lp-n

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THAT "Resurrection" Video

by rory-ks in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqr51qsvf2o.

TheOldHippie

For decades, the critisism has been that there are no emotions, that it is a cold, business-like wooden religion.

Now, suddenly, the critisism is that there ARE emotions, but of course - now, emotions are manipulation, nonsense, evidence of no substance, no reality.

This way or that way - it does not matter, it is all wrong, no matter.

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I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC

by James Jackson in

when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.

i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.

they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".

TheOldHippie

Without giving details about oneself, anyone can come forth with juicy stories supposedly coming from hot-shots he "knows". Tell a story, and the gullible crowd will devour it all, as long as it supports their preconcieved ideas.

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Most absurd thing mentioned at District Convention, excuse me, Regional Convention

by Separation of Powers in

so, the round of "regional" conventions has been going on for a few months now.

for those that attended, or those that got transcripts of the parts,.

what was the most absurd thing you heard at yours?.

TheOldHippie

""MAYBE WE WILL BE ASIGNED WHERE TO LIVE""

That is an old one, have heard it since the 70ies.

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Something Big is Coming...

by notsurewheretogo in

the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

TheOldHippie

"No more pioneers and missionaries (let the internet reach the people)"

Because the growth mainly is in the third world countires, and because the WT itself stated that 1/3 of the world's population has access to Internet - meaning that 2/3 don't - AND because groth therefore mainly is taking place in the countries and groups that do NOT have access, THEN the assumption quoted is a No-No.