1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

by joey jojo in

theres a couple of threads re: 1914 on the board right now and it got me thinking.. the jw doctrine of the 1914 generation is a key doctrine , yet it is probably the number one reason most have left over the decades.. 1975- within one generation.. 1995 - new understanding of the word generation.. 2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.. 2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring david splane.. its obvious the org is changing the goalposts and constantly trying to squeeze as much time as they can before they have to abandon this altogether.

or will they come up with something new?.

does anyone else think this ever changing doctrine is responsible for the biggest loss of members?.

smiddy3

1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

1975- within one generation.

1995 - new understanding of the word generation.

2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.

2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring David Splane.

Correct me if I am wrong but has there been a big decrease in membership ?

The last I heard was something like 8.5 million JW`s worldwide a few years ago ,what is the number now in 2022 ?

A big decrease or not ?

How many are you saying is now the number of active JW` s worldwide ?

Significantly less than 8 .5 million Jehovah`s witnesses ?

And can you verify it ?

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Would a JW accused to be a murderer (in a judicial committee) be reported to the police?

by psyco in

i am wondering if a jw accused to be a murderer (or any other serious crime except csa) in a judicial committee would be reported to the police.. if i sexually abused or molested a child, i would not be reported to the police.. what about if i killed a person: would i be instead?.

it is not a matter of being right or wrong but i am only curious to know if there is at least a sort of coherence regarding the internal policies for serious crimes....

smiddy3

I don`t believe they would report it to the police , as that would likely bring reproach on Jehovah`s name. So I would agree with what stan livedeath has said ,they would DF him or her and absolve themselves from any connection to the crime.They can say he or she is not a JW .

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2022 - 1914 = ?

by fedup in

obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

smiddy3

Jehovah`s Witnesses have invested time and money being a part of this religious organization believing what the Governing body of this religion tells them to accept.

Th"New truths" / "Old truths" doctrines confuses the issues at hand.

A rationale intelligent person can see that an old truth is not a truth at all.......and never was.

And a new truth that turns out to be an old truth is not a truth at all..........and never was.

How many "New Truths" can you relate over the 100 plus years of this religions history that have become" Old truths" ?

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Is it okey to express your love for Jesus currently as a Jehovah's witness?

by Kosonen in

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is it okey to express your love for jesus as a jehovah's witness?.

it should be, even though it would lift some eyebrows in the congregation.

let's see what jesus said:.

smiddy3

I love the way Jesus never used the Name of his father, as in the text you cited and all others.

Is it because JESUS knew that his name was, as recorded in Phil.2:10,11 was who his followers Christians ,were to put their faith and trust / acknowledge in for salvation.

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Is it okey to express your love for Jesus currently as a Jehovah's witness?

by Kosonen in

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friends

is it okey to express your love for jesus as a jehovah's witness?.

it should be, even though it would lift some eyebrows in the congregation.

let's see what jesus said:.

smiddy3

My understanding is that Jesus is an after thought and only to be used in mention at the closing of a prayer.

All the attention and worship is to be given to the father who they erroneously call JEHOVAH and not the more correct pronunciation in English YAHWEH ,suggested by the WT publication "Aid To Bible Understanding"

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Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?

by JWTom in

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someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.

maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.

is this true?

smiddy3

When it does come back it will be one magazine half of which will be the WT and the other half will be Awake and it could have the caption " Watctower is Awake to Bible Prophecies & world Events"

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Date a JW student

by Renee86 in

can a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?

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smiddy3

True story:

I became interested in the JW`s via a workmate in early 1959 ,as a 20 y.old with a girl friend .I shared my new found beliefs with my GF and she followed me in accepting a Bible study .We planned on getting married but we couldn`t get married by a P.O. in a KH unless we were baptized.

There were very few KH`s in Melbourne at that time ,the hall / meetings we were going to was a rented hall in a Melb, suburb.

In November of 1960 we were both baptized at a CA and our experience was a part of the program by the bro./ workmate who first contacted me as an incidental witness given at a workplace to fellow workers.

In Feb, 1961 we were married in a neighboring Kingdom Hall by a Presiding Overseer who came over from the other side of Melbourne to conduct the service.

I just thought I would share our experience.

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Will the next James Bond be........

by BoogerMan in

.......a disabled black, non-binary, homosexual, transsexual, environmentalist vegan?

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all bases need to be covered.

smiddy3

I think Jon Pertwee was my fav.actor to play Dr Who ,who was yours ?

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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

by smiddy3 in

i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

smiddy3

Lets face it JJ ,you could have got a good wife no matter what religion you belonged to or even no religion .

And you also could have got a terrible wife in the JW religion , there are plenty of bad marriages in JW land as anywhere else.

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Jehovah’s witnesses and compulsory voting in Australia.

by Longlivetherenegades in

what do jehovah’s witnesses do during election period in australia?

i learnt voting is compulsory in australia and those who choose not to vote are fined.

do jehovah’s witnesses pay such fines?.

smiddy3

usually goes along the lines of having given their allegiance to Christ’s Kingdom and being neutral to human affairs.

They post their forms back to the Electoral Commission and no more is heard.

Yes that is what I and my wife did for many years as there are legitimate excuses that can be given and one is objection on religious grounds.

I also believe that some would go to a polling booth on voting day write on the form some scripture and place that in the box.

That way the Govt. wouldn`t know they were a religious nut.

smiddy3

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