how do you distiguish between a prophecy ,evident reality ,seems to/would indicate , obviously . must mean , etc,etc.
And not call it a prophecy / or call it a prophecy ?
blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 30, 2017 wt study (february 2017) (who is leading).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2017/who-is-leading-gods-people-today/ .
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
how do you distiguish between a prophecy ,evident reality ,seems to/would indicate , obviously . must mean , etc,etc.
And not call it a prophecy / or call it a prophecy ?
in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.
in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.
i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.
This is an interesting observation pp and one that I hope more people respond to .
.Doesn`t the WT/JW religion themselves engage in politics ? One way or another over the years ?
Isn`t prophecying about the KOTN & the KOTS and what the supposed Eighth king is going to do speculating in politics ?
Could their stand in times past challenging the legal systems rulings be constituted as taking a stand against the Superiour Authorities according to Rom.13 ? The political /Judicial Systems.? That are in place ?
While I like to see more discussion on what the WT religion is doing and where it is heading I do see that politics has some relevance here as do other subjects such as sexuality ,racism , and even whether we are alone in the Universe .
Because one way or another they are all related to the Bible and Religion of one form or another.
alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.
german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.
wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?
I`d like to know what planet the Corona-Virus deniers are on ,because I`m sure I`m not on the same planet as they are.
I`m 82 years old and have had my first Astrazeneca jab and will have my second jab on the 9 sept..
Neither my wife or myself had any side effects with the first jab and hopefully wont have any with the second one.
But then again if you never hear from me again after the 9 Sept ,it`s been nice knowing you all.
from haaretz newspaper:.
what does a pig skeleton discovered in jerusalem say about first temple era jews?.
the argument here is that sanctions on eating pork were only introduced in the 2nd temple era.. so what does that tell you bout biblical accuracy.. .
Maybe the stones are finally crying out ? luke 19:40
i was raised believing i was very fortunate knowing i had the truth.
i was groomed to be an elder.
i figured if mother said something, even if i couldn’t totally understand it, it was correct because mother knows best.
I was a convert in 1960 and I certainly beleived JW`s were the only true religion.
How gullible was I !
how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?
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How could he be, regardless of how God impregnated Mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the Bible.
Mary was subjected to the Adamic sin like all other humans, so Jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.
To believe otherwise is just deluding oneself IMHO .
The only way Jesus could have been really without sin is if God created him the same way he created Adam.
What do you think ?
does anyone know of examples where the watchtower used symbolic interpretation to twist the plain meaning of scripture?the only one that comes to my mind right now is in rev.
"then i heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of israel".. .
here, the wt would have us believe that the number of those sealed are literally 144k; but supposedly "israel" symbolically represents anointed jw's.
What about the seven trumpets of Revelation that were applied to the Conventions that started in cedar Point ohio ? in 1922 ?
If i remember correctly ? was stated in the revelation book we studied mid week.I found that a bit hard to swallow.
for any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.
there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.
After all these thousands of years humans have been subjected to Satan being the God of this system of things, with all of the evil that has gone on , and apparently the very short time Adam and Eve lived in a paradise earth , ,who really is the Almighty God ?
Satan or Jehovah ?
I have to give some credit to Splane for being able to use the Bible to play any old tune you wish to play.
so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.
he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.
he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.
Still no video or link about what Splane said ? And why did the OP say he thought that their were more apostates working on the inside ?
OK , I guess this answers that
,No matter how hard they try, there is always someone in the inside leaking videos or secret letters.
https://www.c21media.net/news/vice-doc-spotlights-jehovahs-witnesses/.
us cable network vice tv will debut an original documentary that claims to uncover corruption and abuse within the jehovah’s witnesses community.. vice versa: crusaders, which will air on july 28, is part of the channel’s vice versa brand, known for docs including fear of a black quarterback and the neglected pandemic.. the project comes from hollywood director aaron kaufman, who was shunned by his jehovah’s witness family after investigating paedophilia within the organisation.. crusaders is directed by kaufman and executive produced by lauren terp, as well as daniel levinson and robert fernandez for us-london prodco moxie pictures, and danny gabai and andrew freston for vice studios.
executive producing for vice tv is catherine whyte.. kaufman said: “after witnessing first-hand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the jehovah’s witnesses, i could not rest until the dark truth of this organisation was brought to light.
I think this videro was very good for ex JW`s to see but not for non JW`s as an expose .
It was far too long for that it needs to be cut down to about 45 min.and hone in more on the negatives of the religion.
Just my opinion.