she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against Bill .
Is your friend an active JW ? have you verified whether or not these quotes are from reputable sources ?
Just curious jhine
hi everyone , how are ya'll ?
l have a question particularly for any americans on here .
l have an american friend from la who has recently been trying very hard to investigate bill gates and his foundation , she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against bill .
she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against Bill .
Is your friend an active JW ? have you verified whether or not these quotes are from reputable sources ?
Just curious jhine
i hope it's all clear now.. https://youtu.be/abcnryekw2c.
I think that goat was a sheep in goats clothing because he/she evidently understood it because she/he was so attentive to the explanation .
Now what Jesus said about the sheep and the goats takes on a new meaning .
i see a lot of kids that rarely get discipline.
they are allowed to do whatever they want and if someone says something to them they don’t want to hear, they blow them off, ignore them or engage in disrespectful talk.. what’s wrong with today’s parents??
they are producing a generation of entitled brats!.
Actually I did call the cops on my son many years ago .At the time he was living with us ,we had a seperate living area for him .He was going through a very tough time after his JW wife cheated on him with one of his JW "friends" some time before.
And he had gone off the rails a bit ,almost to the point of being habitually drunk ,and it was because he was well under the influence & decided he needed to get more booze ,I told him not to get in his ute to do so and he ignored me and drove off.
It broke my heart to do so but I called the cops because he could have killed himself or someone else in that condition
I had tears pouring out of my eye`s as I did so.Actually tears have appeared now as I type this yet it happened many, many years ago now.
His life has completely turned around for the better , non drinker married with two beautiful boys about 11 and 9 now & none of them have anything to do with religion.
Sorry to go off topic.mm
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
I would also like to hear from anybody that believes in God and that the Bible is the word of God .?
The Old Testament God isn`t referred to as the God of war for nothing,
How do you reconcile the Old Testament God with the New Testament God ?
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
I`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .
1.When Adam & Eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely God could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?
2.His handling of Satan who supposedly seduced Eve to disobey God could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.
3.I find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving God protecting them.?
4.Taking on the Nation of Israel and leading them as his Chosen People does not inspire confidence or trust as a God of love.
5.Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures / Old Testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the Israelite`s during these battles .And the grief that comes with family members in those times. And don`t forget we are looking at hundreds of years here.
6.The sickness and disease`s that existed while Jehovah God was sole ruler over his chosen people and also when he allowed Kings to rule over them .Most notably would be when the nation of Israel had a Leprosy Colony among them that apparently still existed up until Jesus time on earth.
I look forward to your comments and anything else that you feel could be added to my list.Or if you feel I have been unjust in my criticism of Jehovah God and his dealings with humankind .
i see a lot of kids that rarely get discipline.
they are allowed to do whatever they want and if someone says something to them they don’t want to hear, they blow them off, ignore them or engage in disrespectful talk.. what’s wrong with today’s parents??
they are producing a generation of entitled brats!.
The trouble today is, with Kids Without Rules is largely because kids are having kids, IMHO .
with this pandemic upon us now in full bloom, its not surprising that religions are trying to entice their flocks back, with ' we told you so' rhetoric.
the truth is, these events happen every so often and we should expect them.. another term for this unpredictable certainty is a black swan event, that is, a rare event, that has wide ranging, often devastating effects.
we know bad things will happen, sometimes very bad things but we just don't know what, how or when.
We could use theocratic warfare ? "Time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all " , "there`s nothing new under the sun" ?
JJ ,I couldn`t bare to see a 4 day old post with no replies .LOL
exploiding children for jw.org.. remember i was a young child, 40 years ago i wrote an article about the bible, from watchtower and awake sources.. still wish i never did.
my teacher gave me hell and said no more of this shit.. since then i was scared for being a jw.. now, i read this, shit hit the fan again.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/young-witnesses-become-resourceful-evangelizers-during-pandemic/.
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Not exactly N-G ,the millions of gullible witnesses around the world have a variety of reasons for getting anybody back into the religion.
Their gullibility lies in the fact they don`t realize that the GB of JW`s is only interested in that the more people "in" the religion the more money is contributed .
does anyone know of any covid-19 diagnoses within any bethels/branches/remote translation centers?.
it would be interesting to see what the gb's policy is when this happens.
i suppose it's bound to happen sooner or later..
Just like he protected his chosen people the Israelite`s / Jews from the time he became their GOD from the scourge of Leprosy ?
Numb.12:10 ,Le.13:2 , Deu. 24:8 , 2KI.5:3 ,27 ,Lu.5:12.
So going by past experience Jehovah won`t be protecting anyone at any of the Bethel`s and in the case of Miriam it was god who gave her Leprosy .
And I laugh at those who say God Jehovah is protecting the GB and others by moving out of New York ?
Jesus Christ he only moved them less than 55 miles away ? Not to somewhere like Australia which has a pittance of infections compared to America .
scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.
the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.
apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..
scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries BCE, with the 6th century BCE as the most likely period for various reasons. The book of Job .
So according to JW`s about 6,000 years ago Satan rebelled against Jehovah God ,did Jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?
Apparently not as we can read from the book of Job Centuries later that Satan could still come and go freely before the throne of Jehovah in Heaven .Job 1: 6
And apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before Jehovah because according to the JW religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th Century .
Now in the case of Jesus much of what is said about Jehovah and Satan also applies to Jesus before he came to earth.
But even when he was on earth he didn`t shun Satan either in fact he allowed Satan to lead him around according to the Bible account.Luke 4:13 So the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .So it wasn`t Jesus calling the shots here it was Satan .
Mark 1: 13 He ,Jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with Satan letting him tempt him .
So their was no way either Jehovah or Jesus ever shunned Satan the devil according to the Bible writings.
And when Jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father Jehovah still had association with Satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the JW`s.