Posts by smiddy3

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Jesus said Truly I tell you This Day...

by JohnTron72 in

adam was told not to eat from the tree of knowledge for upon the very day of eating from it, he would die.

i had someone say that god lied because, adam didn't die that day but, the scriptures say to god a day is as a thousand years so, since adam lived 900+ years after eating , he indeed died within god's view of a day.

methuselah the oldest to ever live 969 years still within god's set time of a day.

smiddy3

Adam and Eve for that matter would have had no concept of a thousand years being one day ,so they would have in all probability believed what we understand a day meaning.

A thousand years being a day in Gods sight wasn`t brought out till thousands of years later .

So as far as Adam and Eve were concerned God deceived them and the snake satan told the truth.

Simply because they didn`t die in what they would have understood a day to be.

Also Satan / snake told the truth when he said their eyes would be opened knowing good and bad and in that sense being like God.

I think Jehovah god is the bad guy here and Satan has been given a raw deal.

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I can't wait to see the first human clone

by JohnTron72 in

hi everyone, i sure have been getting all kinds of replies by many on here and that's great.

i read all the post even if some don't believe in god at all.

however, i do believe and anything i say on here is from the depths of my belief and knowledge.

smiddy3

You seem to think that all ex JW`s on this forum believe they have a soul distinct from the body .? If so what led you to that conclusion ?

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Adam could have put Jehovah In Paradox!

by JohnTron72 in

i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!

i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?

" and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?

smiddy3

JohnTron72

Adam would not have had any concept of a thousand years being one day as God later brings out.

Didn`t Jehovah create the first murder weapon ? A ( flaming ) sword ? a time when there was no industry in existence to produce such an instrument of war.

Wasn`t Jehovah the first to authorise his chosen people to commit genocide ? among the nations killing man woman and child .

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Oh How Far I've Come

by pale.emperor in

so this weekend my girlfriend and i will move into our own place together.

it turns out that “a cord of three strands is stronger” is bullshit and two people in a relationship are perfectly capable of being happy without outside influence.

what a journey i’ve had since leaving 3 and a half years ago!

smiddy3

That`s good news p.e. I wish you and your missus all the best for your journey ahead .I know it`s a long way off yet but just wait till he/she becomes a teenager

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Which songs give you goosebumps?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?

', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.

y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.

smiddy3

"Time to say goodbye" Andrea Bocelli & Sarah Brightman

"Hallelujah" K.D.Lang

" Bring him Home" Les Mis.

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Were You Willing To Die For Jehovah?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we were supposed to be dedicated unconditionally to jehovah god.

we were willing to be persecuted to the death if need be.

if it came to taking a blood transfusion or dying, we were loyal to jehovah and would be a martyr for god.

smiddy3

I`m sad to say this but for myself and probably for my wife I would not have consented to a blood transfusion as for my two boys? I`ll never know and thankfully I was never in that position .

All I can say is when I was a believer I was a TRUE believer .and that scares the shit out of me today as to what I might have done then and now come to regret it.

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confused with nowhere to turn

by Rebecca in

i'm 43 and a divorced mother of 2. in january 2019 i met the man i thought i could spend the rest of my life with.

we were happy and even though our relationship wasn't perfect (like all relationships) i thought we had a chance and were building a life together with our young kids.

background on me - i've been divorced since 2012 after 12 years of marriage.

smiddy3

Whatever you do do not get sucked back into a relationship with this guy if ever he trys to smooth talk you into it .

One way to test his genuiness about cutting ties with JW`s if ever it came to that is this .

Get him to join this site and /or JWfacts.com ,because JW`s consider these sites worse than associating with the Devil Satan and labelling them as apostate sites .Sites that are critical of JW`s teachings and practices .Have absolutely nothing to do with them whatsoever,they say.

Contrast their attitude with Jehovah God and Christ Jesus who both tolerated and associated with Satan the Devil for thousands of years after all he is accused of doing according to the Bible.

If he resisted joining an apostate site such as this or JWFacts.com then he is still very much in the clutches of the JW mindset an American man made religion that sprang up in the late 1800`s like so many others.

Take care Becky

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Pat Robertson using the Bible to justify horrible actions

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here comes old and senile pat robertson speaking on his television program, the 700 club.

robertson went on a rant (when asked by an audience member) on his thoughts about the death penalty.. robertson said:.

are you kidding?

smiddy3

Where their is absolutely no error for doubt and its positively proven by whatever means and a life or lives have been lost then I have no problem with the death penalty in such cases.

The biblical reasons for carrying out the death penalty is atrocious ,barbaric and words fail me.

However with the American judicial system where a man or woman can spend 10 ,or more years on death row is also barbaric ,that is nothing but cruel mental torture .

They need to overhaul their judicial system for people on death row.

There was controversy over the death of Carl Chessman who was on death row for over 11 years and if things had gone to plan maybe he would not have been executed at all and just spent x amount of time being incarcerated for his crimes.

That`s just my 2 cents worth.

I remember seeing the movie based on his book when I was a teenager .

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I can just imagine the hype that is going on in Australia about how close armageddon is now with all of these bushfires occurring.

by smiddy3 in

it brings to mind my niece when she see`s how dry the countryside is ,how armageddon must be so close..

smiddy3

It's a stretch but do you suppose there are any JW's who go so far as to say that Jehovah is angry at Australia because of the ARC?

I`m not too sure about that Pete ,however having a bit of an insight on how JW`s reason ,being there myself at one time it wouldn`t surprise me if some took that attitude but I doubt very much that the organization would go that far.

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Adam could have put Jehovah In Paradox!

by JohnTron72 in

i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!

i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?

" and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?

smiddy3

Well from my point of view and the NWT account it wasn`t Satan who decieved or lied it was Jehovah.

GOD told adam in the DAY he ate of the forbidden fruit he would surely die .Which of course he didn`t .

And presumably Adam would have told Eve that in the DAY either of them ate of the fruit they would surely die.

Now satan comes along and tells Eve that not only would she not die in that DAY but that her eyes would be open and she would know good and bad and in that way be like GOD.

So who is the liar and who told the truth ?