I'm not coveting my neighbours Beemer! I'm lying on this warm bonnet cos i,m udderly friesian.......
GoneAwol
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The murmuring phase is the beginning of an ex-JWs progression towards fading.
by Stand for Pure Worship ini suppose part of the fascination i have with this board is, the exotic nature of those making up the member population.
i say exotic because, as you yourselves will agree with, folks such as yourselves don't hang around the christian congregation for long upon making the decision that truth is not for you.
(rom 1:25) this "fading" thing spoken of here likely plays a role into why christians such as me find the average ex-jw to be a bit fascinating.
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GoneAwol
SFPW, hi! I,ve not had chance to post much lately, but I do enjoy your posts. Can you answer a question for me? I have just read Jude and I cant seem to see where it says 'governing body'. Can you help me out?
Cheers!
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monthly report
by search4truth inhas anyone refused hand in monthly report with explanation that this practice is not biblical and what were the consequences of that ?
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GoneAwol
This was the first thing my dad stopped doing. If he gets asked for his hours now, he tells them to put down what they want. Its a young elder that does the rounds, so he's probably scared to come back with nothing.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-13-2013 WT Study (ENRAGED)
by blondie inwt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
enraged against.
enraged against.
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GoneAwol
"Doing" his watchtower every week is one of the last strings my Dad has connected to the borg. Your resilience and hard work mean that I can point out the real meanings behind these programming pamphlets. It really really helps him to open his eyes.
I just hope the sick bucket is a big one! Much respect Blondie!
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Growing up in the Watchtower has left me with an Aversion to Whispering!
by cofty ini can't stand it!.
if somebody starts whispering in my presence i have to walk away quickly.
it's a visceral reaction i can't control.
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GoneAwol
HI BILL! hee hee! I will pm you when I get a weekend off. Promise
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Do you detect an underlying sadness ?
by Phizzy inwhenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
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GoneAwol
I saw this sadness firsthand this morning. I was in Newcastle city centre working (I know, on a Sunday!) and a 1 day assembly was on at City Hall. As usual, and I remember doing this with my family, all the J-dubs wandered down to the Maccy d'd to get brekky. All of them, and I mean ALL of them had this hang dog expression on their faces. Non looked happy to have given up a Sunday for more brainwashing. It was as if they knew they were being watched?
It was eerie looking in from the outside.
AND SO LIBERATING!
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This WT book allows one raised as a JW to do a critical review of the religion and elders can't go against it.
by EndofMysteries ini love this gem, it was taken off the jw.org website, it seems only material after 1990 is up now, but it's here, http://www.scribd.com/doc/5472988/the-time-for-true-submission-to-god .
page 6, "the need to search for the truth".
says this....and i couldn't agree with it more!
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GoneAwol
Wow! This is like new light! Sent it to my muvver. She will read it cos its from her masters in crooklyn.
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My Walmart encounter with the dubs today
by poppers inyup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time i've seen them there.
he said he converted 5 years ago from the presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the jws than all his time with the presbyterians (the usual stuff, jesus died on a stake, paradise earth, etc).
he claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after jesus died on the stake.
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GoneAwol
Julia, thats the 'cult in a kinder egg' right there! I'm going to print this off for my Mums bible study. There's hope for him yet...
GA
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July 15 Watchtower - Contradiction on Page 22 paragraph 10
by Indian Larry inthe paragraph says:.
who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave?
that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing.
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GoneAwol
- I Celtic: "Larry, do you have the scriptures used for the latest wt regarding the slave?"
From JW.org:
"10 Who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave? In keeping with Jesus’ pattern of feeding many through the hands of a few, that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence. Throughout the last days, the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave have served together at headquarters. In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Note, however, that the word “slave” in Jesus’ illustration is singular, indicating that this is a composite slave. The decisions of the Governing Body are thus made collectively."
Thats all folks! No scriptures. Just a statement. Believe y'all and be saved!
WT 81 makes the statement: "There is no point in trying to force an interpretation of the parable. Self-deception is of no benefit and is spiritually damaging."
Does this mean that this teaching is still damaging? Or that its ok for the GB to decieve us but not ourselves? "We just love this new teaching!" What they really mean is: "Er, actually, a bit of time has passed, so people will forget who actually came up with this new thought and were thrown out with the garbage! Lets nick this idea!"
What a wicked web the Web weaves..
GA
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Comments you hear at the July 15th WT Study
by LostGeneration inif you still go to the meetings, i'd love to hear how tomorrow's wts goes down.. i'm sure there will be plenty of comments read straight from the paragraph, a few pauses where nobody wants to comment for fear of not getting it right, and a few completely wrong comments from publishers talking out of their a$$e$ trying to look smart.
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GoneAwol
This morning I've been texting my Dad to go to the meeting and get a tape of this WT. Hope he does. My Dad is starting to see the racket for what it is. He only goes to the Wednesday meeting now to keep people off his back. My Mum is still very much in and thinks I am still "saveworthy".
I think some of the answer-uppers will be worth analysing as to what they make of this. Paragraph 10 comes out with THE statement as to who the FandDS is, with no supporting scriptures at all. Maybe the kids will answer that paragraph!