i really would just like to ask them if they believe everything they hear on the platform or read in a magazine.
they seriously look like cultists.
it is embarrassing..
The title of the thread asked, what would you tell them, not what would you ask, so I would tell them:
1. You are being used by men not god
2. Don't believe anything that you are told and half of what you see, search it out for yourself
The OP then asked what would you ask:
1. Why are elders instructed not to co-operate with cases of child abuse when questioned by the police?
2. When does a loving father stop being a loving father?
the feeling that you're never good enough.
the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .
because i'd give anything not to feel this way.
Who is it telling you that you are not good enough? Not good enough for what? Who is telling you that you are evil? What evidence is there that they are accurate?
Judge yourself by your own standards, not by others, if you have the wrong standards, raise them, better yourself, hold your head high
so this is the ultimate dilemma.
my wife and i are on the same page.
do we fade, in which all our friends, and i stress friends call us and feel sick and hurt and hurt and we feel guilty; or do we da so we tell the wt what we see as wrong as what we see that lead us to believe its a false religion; or do we df and let me or my wife let them catch us at some wrong doing and stop going to meetigs..... .
Tell your wife they'll soon forget about you both once you're gone. Believe me, they will.
ok, so didnt jesus supposedly say "the end will come when you least expect it"?
(or words to that effect...).
so, with so many witnesses running around in an excited way talking about "100 years since the kingdom...etc" and "it may be our last chance to pioneer etc"..."may be the last international conventions".....doesnt this mean then that the end can not come now??!!.
Even Jesus didn't know when it is going to be when he said those words. But given the political situation he was living in it must have been clear that Jerusalem was going to be overthrown and it was.
been lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.
a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.
my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.
Welcome here, I'm glad you have a good relationship with your family and have found your way, and all without having to attend all the meetings that JWs say you have to. As to the truth you refer to, I'm afraid you still have the cult mentality, I'm not being rabid, just realistic.
i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.
i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .
i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.
Welcome here. You have tough decisions to make if you stay and live a lie it may affect your health mentally and physically. If you don't you may suffer the same! All I can say is be true to yourself.
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just wondering since leaving jws, has anyone went tattoo and piercing crazy, so to speak??
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3 tattoos, and happiness inserted into my life
i previously posted under howthebiblewasinvented however since then my comouter died and all info lost..thus the new name and new intro.
btw my post are always pg rated.. first i am a born in, baptized at 16 but could never kick the masterbation habit lol.
i felt jehovah would either 1: kill me at armagedden or 2: forgive me.. for the later hope i lived and after my father died i continued.
Welcome, again. In your quest to free everyone don't forget your wife and newborn child. Sadly not everyone wants to be freed.
i am feeling so emotional right now.
crazy doctrines aside, these child abuse cover-ups are horrendous.
add them together and i feel like there is a churning black hole sucking the souls out of these children.. now, i realize there are boys who were abused as well, but i get this overwhelming feeling that girls/women are simply not valued and/or taken seriously or accused of being liars or demonic or, even worse, viewed as a harlot, whore, or temptress in the majority of situations, no matter the age or the brutality of the rape.
It's the tip of the iceberg in my opinion, many can't bring themselves to tell their story. I reckon there's been a pedophile in almost every congregation at some point, that might sound sensational but the JWs are a perfect place for them to gain protection.
my husband is actually asking me questions about the governing body saying they are the mouthpiece of jehovah and the whole jesus invisible rulership in 1914 etc.
i am looking up stuff now to show him but if you have any proof, qotes, etc.
to help me wake up my husband please send to me now asap!.
1 John 4:1, then Deut 18:22, then point out all the failed predictions
