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Posters you miss?

by ApagaLaLuz in

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there were several posters from a couple years ago that i really miss talking to here are a few that i can remember off hand:.

trauma hound.

windchaser.

SpinDoctor

Prisca,
I can't help but notice how much you keep sniping at Simon. If you don't like it here no-one is forcing you to stay. From where I'm stood it's almost as though you're trying to provoke him into deleting your account.

Where? I have seen the opposite. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61992/2.ashx has Simon attacking Prisca.

Another example is his response to her complaint about his insult about her being at that time of the month. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/15/62076/946032/post.ashx#946032 Prisca says:

I was shocked to have someone use this kind of a "joke" as a way of attacking me the other day. Considering he is a married man, you would have thought he'd known better.

Responding to an insult is sniping?

Simon's reply is at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/15/62076/947414/post.ashx#947414

I don't believe in apologising if I don't genuinely mean it (ie. for expediency). I've read plenty of comments made by you on another board directed at me which I think justifies practically anything I may want to say.
However if you want to hear the word so you know what it sound like then ... "s o r r i e"

Does Prisca really deserve such treatment? Such comments violate several forum policies. Read the posting policies....everyone is to feel welcome, no insults etc. Also, Simon has made it very clear that what a poster does offsite cannot affect their standing on this site. So what Prisca posts off this board makes no difference.

I think it is clear who is sniping at whom, and who is trying to get Prisca deleted. It ain't Prisca.

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Posters you miss?

by ApagaLaLuz in

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friends

there were several posters from a couple years ago that i really miss talking to here are a few that i can remember off hand:.

trauma hound.

windchaser.

SpinDoctor

It was nice to see the close friendship that LB, LyinEyes, XenaWarrior, Mac, Valis, Scootergirl, Eyegirl, etc. share. Of them, Mac and Valis seem to be the only regular posters left. Sad.

Valis is nice. And Mac has a great sense of humor. Glad you guys are still around.

I miss Robdar, Farkel and Jourles.

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"Congratulations" - WHY?

by Prisca in

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why is it a social custom to say "congratulations" to a guy when his wife/gf has had/is having a baby?.

what has he done to deserve the sentiments?

all he's done is have an orgasm and spurt some semen into her?

SpinDoctor

Congratulating someone on the birth of a child is done because it is a social custom. This makes sense since it usually leads to a happy event, the blessing of another child in several peoples' lives.

It is normal to congratulate people when good things happen, irregardless of whether or not anyone has done something to earn that happiness. When someone wins $1million in the lottery, they are congratulated. Yet they have done nothing more than what millions of others have done; buy a ticket.

We celebrate birthdays; yet every person born will be born some day in the year....they have no choice, as their mother pushes them out of the womb.

Who has done anything to deserve a gift at Christmas? Yet gifts are exchanged.

Why do we congratulate or celebrate these things? Because it makes us feel good.

I would like to remind the poster who attacked Prisca of the following policies:

To ensure all users feel safe and keen to participate, please avoid:

Insulting, threatening or provoking language

Posting an off-topic comment.

Forums may be moderated to make sure they stay friendly and welcoming, legal and relevant...

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The Joy of a Dear Friend

by SpinDoctor in

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how does one express the joy,.

of meeting a beautiful, precious soul..... and being able to talk with that one, .

soul to soul, heart to heart.. .

SpinDoctor

How does one express the joy,

Of meeting a beautiful, precious soul....

And being able to talk with that one,

soul to soul, heart to heart.

How does one express the feeling,

Of a dear friend who heals without trying....

How can I ever thank that one,

For such a gift at this time?

SpinDoctor

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Do Apostate demos at conventions work?

by home_and_dry in

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firstly, hello from a newbie .

i was reading a thread a few days ago which got me thinking.

it was about everyones views on apostates before leaving the dubs.

SpinDoctor

In the pre-Internet days, such protests may not had served much purpose, but today advertising a URL (such as www.jehovahs-witness.com) or a phone number (such as 1-800-Help4JW) might do great good for the apostate cause. Jehovah’s Witnesses would be too shy to approach an apostate at a convention, but can easily memorize or write down an easy to remember phone number or URL.

If the advertisement is off the convention site itself it cannot be stopped, except by extreme measures.

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JW Briefcase Selling, Or A Hoax Business??

by ladonna in

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i found this surfing around, and thought, whew...these dubs are really making money!!!.

http://www.bookbind.net/prices.htm.

one problem; the site links to a friend of ours right here on this forum.. **confused**.

SpinDoctor

Criticizing the prices this business charges is similar to criticizing Randy for the prices he charges in his business. And most here would defend Randy’s prices. Like any business, overhead and profit are determined by business volume, which may be lower than a similar secular business may have. Also, the law of supply and demand determines prices. There must be a sufficient demand for their services to justify the prices.

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Are you bitter?

by rolling rock in

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is it just me, or is "everyone" on this board bitter?.

i do know alot of happy jws and, i could not see them being anything else but jws.... .

this is just my take on what i have been reading on the boards sence i joined up...

SpinDoctor

Is it just me, or is "everyone" on this board bitter?

From what I am able to discern from lurking on this site, the apparent bitterness seems to be caused by a variety of problems in various individuals personal lives.

Why so many would seem to get problems all at the same time is a puzzle to me. Perhaps it is the general collapse of the worldwide economy, and the fear generated by the WTC incident. There is often general unrest in a population when a country’s economy has hit rough times. Since the whole world is in an economic slump, it is not surprising that people from many different countries are edgy. Add to that the recent concerns about terrorism.

I suspect that the contention shown on this board is temporary. I trust the good-heartedness, integrity and intellect of the board members. I predict that in time this problem will rectify itself. I cannot predict how long it will be until that happens.

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1/2002 KM: WT & Awake Sub Campaign

by AMNESIAN in

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"april: the watchtower and awake!

magazines.

where interest is found on return visits, subscriptions may be offered.".

SpinDoctor

I was interested in your comments and would ask you why, if what you say is true, do the Society still offer literature for money at the doors in the poor countries whereas the donation arrangement is in operation in the more affluent countries which also have tax laws that would impinge on the distribution of literature?
As an example, the donation arrangement was introduced in Oz just a few months before the commencement of a Goods & Services Tax (VAT).

If sales tax is charged, the publisher will have to create a paper record of it. Then someone has to get the tax monies to the government. So, either the individual publisher, congregation, or the Society itself would have to physically handle the monies and pay the government. If handled at a publisher or congregation level, some individual publishers or congregations will likely make a mistake. This could result in legal action and cause unnecessary reproach on Jehovah’s name, and cause the individual publisher and congregation undue anxiety. It would also take their focus off of their primary goal, which is preaching about the Kingdom hope.

So, the Society is the one best qualified to handle the paperwork. Unfortunately, this is not cost effective. Millions of pieces of literature are placed each month. Millions of pieces of paperwork would be generated, and the Society would have to obtain them somehow…and uses the congregations and publishers will have some of the problems just described. Plus, the overhead of processing them at the Society itself would be extremely expense, and not a cost-effective way of using donated funds.

In non-affluent countries, the individual publishers may not have the funds to donate to fully support the preaching work. The traditional method of charging for literature has worked well for years, and continues to work well. Hence, the Society wisely funds the preaching work in poorer countries by charging for literature.

What about affluent countries that do not charge sales tax? Again, the traditional method of charging for literature has worked well for years, and continues to work well. Also, charging for literature helps ensure that the household has some interest before taking the literature, and hence is more likely to read it and benefit from its life-saving message.

For now, Jehovah seems to be directing His Organization to continue using sales tax as the main decision criteria. Since the work is still being funded, we see this as the criteria Jehovah seems to approve of using at this time.

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1/2002 KM: WT & Awake Sub Campaign

by AMNESIAN in

jw
friends

"april: the watchtower and awake!

magazines.

where interest is found on return visits, subscriptions may be offered.".

SpinDoctor

. But, I'm curious that if Jehovah's organization wants to spread this life saving message most efficiently, why not publish the contents of the magizines and publications on the Internet, where tens or hundreds of millions can download them for no cost at all.

This would also tempt our brothers and sisters to use the Internet. Large numbers of unsuspecting brothers and sisters may not remember the URL, and so will enter “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in a search engine in an effort to find the site. This could lead them to read apostate literature and be misled. We have a duty to protect our brothers and sisters from spiritual dangers.

Web-based literature also carries the possibility that Jehovah’s enemies may “mine” such on-line literature with sophisticated software for the purpose of defaming Jehovah’s Organization. This is done with the WT CD-ROM today, which is why we try to restrict WT CD-ROM distribution to active Jehovah’s Witnesses only.

The cost of running a few servers with the publications on them in all different languages surely must be lower than the cost of printing and shipping them all over the world. The Watchtower would be getting the most out of the “widow’s mite” possible.
I'm curious your thoughts on the subject.

This would actually add to the costs. Since many people, especially older persons, are not yet Net-literate, they are best reached by the conventional door-to-door work. Hence, we still have the normal printing costs. Any web-based work would carry some additional cost. Plus, there is the cost of converting files so they are suitable for the Web. Software could be written to minimize such costs, but then there would be extra labor expended to ensure all literature is written in a form suitable for printing and conversion for Web use.

For now, it appears that Jehovah is directing us to continue using printed literature only.

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1/2002 KM: WT & Awake Sub Campaign

by AMNESIAN in

jw
friends

"april: the watchtower and awake!

magazines.

where interest is found on return visits, subscriptions may be offered.".

SpinDoctor

Publications that do not reflect all of the current teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses can still be life saving. If an older publication stirs interest in the Kingdom message, or starts a conversation that leads to interest, then a life-saving work have been performed. Current teachings will be learned as the householder progresses along the road to life.

Placing older publications shows appreciation for the hard work and self-sacrifice of our brothers and sisters. We try to use any donated funds wisely. Placing an older publication makes good use of even the “widow’s mite” by reducing waste. This way, we can show that Jehovah and his Organization appreciate even the most seemingly insignificant donation to the worldwide work.