Posts by TonusOH

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

TonusOH

I got Covid at the end of August. Knocked me for a loop for a day-and-a-half, where I was really tired. But after the second day I recovered pretty quickly and haven't had issues since. I had gotten the Phizer vaccine back in May/June 2020 and no boosters. I don't know if the vaccine helped or not, since the idea behind boosters is that the effectiveness of the vaccines fades (which doesn't sound like any vaccine I ever heard of, but that's another story).

I usually get the flu shot each year, so I will probably get a booster soon, since my doctor recommended that I wait until they have a new one out. I don't worry about it one way or the other. If the alien lizard men wanted me dead, I'd be dead already.

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Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?

by BettyHumpter in

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if instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?

like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?

would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?

TonusOH

The organization has also been very aggressive in having their work translated into as many languages as possible for a long time. Which means that people in a lot of countries all around the world are acquainted with 'the people who knock on doors and talk about Jehovah.' I think they have had members in more than 200 countries and territories around the world. For a religion that has only had its name for less than 100 years, that's pretty impressive.

Too bad they've wasted that outreach on a message of "everyone around you is going to be killed by God very soon. Be one of the very few survivors!"

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

It depends on what you are using. On a PC, when the list of suggested videos is displayed, you can hover over a video and there will be a three-dot icon under the preview. Clicking it displays a menu with a number of options, which includes "don't recommend this channel."

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I would not be surprised if they aren't aware of it. Evans is a big fish in a very small pond. I doubt he has any reach beyond that, and his recent efforts don't seem promising. I also wonder if anyone from those shows/podcasts who have dealt with him found him to be as unpleasant as so many in the exJW community did. He might be better off if they have forgotten him.

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Are Venus and Serena Williams baptized?

by inkling in

has anyone heard actual evidence that they are or are not?.

(besides the absurdity of thier actions that the local elders would have to let slide).

do they even claim to be witneses anymore?.

TonusOH

I don't think a non-JW would care. JWs might want to know, because if they're baptized then at least one of them should be DF, as Diogensister pointed out. If they are not, then I would suspect that many JWs would see their association as potentially a good thing, helping to spark more interest in their teachings. Unfortunately, these days it's much easier to hop on the internet and search than it is to ask a JW. So the story many people get is the unvarnished one that the WTS really wishes no one knew about.

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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

by mikeflood in

don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

TonusOH

Ukraine joining NATO would have left Russia pretty vulnerable because of the terrain. I think Putin has wanted to annex it completely for a long time in order to avoid being in a very weak military position. If anything shows how vital that region is, it's the extent to which NATO has helped Ukraine, once they realized that the Russian army was in rough shape and could be substantially weakened, if not outright defeated.

As for how long it goes, I think it will last a couple of years. Putin cannot lose this war or it is the end of him. Zelensky is in a similar spot, since he has made it clear that he will not negotiate any terms that do not include Russia returning any land they are holding. NATO would be in a pretty nasty spot if Russia takes enough territory or wins outright. I don't see a negotiated settlement until there is no more will to fight, which will likely only happen once one or both armies are ground into dust.

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What are the odds that Armageddon is soooo close?

by Vanderhoven7 in

well judging from past prophetic pronouncements....go figure.

"surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of god that the lord jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" watchtower 1924 jan 1 p.5).

"the prophecy of the bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfillment thereof, shows that the second coming of christ dates from the fall of the year 1914.

TonusOH

That's a good point, a watcher. Armageddon does not just suddenly happen, in the JW version of things. It follows a period of anarchy and persecution that is so extreme that it would end humanity without God's intervention. Maybe the teaching of the Great Tribulation is even more of a problem for the WTS than Armageddon itself. Because if they ever claim that we are in that time, then it is a period of time that has to get worse and end with Armageddon. If things improve or stabilize for a time, then they would be wrong.

In other words, there is a beginning of the end in their worldview, and it should be so extraordinary as to be identifiable. There shouldn't be any hesitation on their part, no "these events might be the start of something." Everyone should be able to recognize that this is something unprecedented and meaningful. Until that happens, it doesn't matter how close the Day of Jehovah is... it hasn't begun.

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C of E Abuse Report. Contrast with JW org !

by Phizzy in

note this report covers cases going back to 1949, they uncovered 400. if j.w's in the u.k did a similar, thorough trawl of all congregation records going back that far, let's pretend they haven't destroyed most of them, we know they have, but just pretend they are all available, how many cases of abuse would they uncover ?

in a much smaller org ?.

maybe the file destruction that has gone on was to protect the org.

TonusOH

The article headline used "C of E" and the first sentence of the article reads "The Church of England has suffered from a culture of deference, inertia, misogyny [etc]". Click the link and you would have understood what it mean in literally the first four words.

As for Phizzy's question about what the JWs might discover: I think it was the Australia commission that found a record of complaints/reports of CSA against more than 1,000 JWs. I believe that this was during a period a bit shorter than the 1940s to present. I don't think the numbers can be compared directly, but it's still a staggering total.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I agree that the low view totals must be driving him bonkers, especially as he wonders where the other 98,000 subscribers have gone. I think he's been trying to branch out, but that means having to build a viewership all over again. exJWs will not be very interested in the Mormons or Scientologists, and if he wants to rebrand as an atheist channel, that's also a completely different demographic.

He's almost back where he was when he began, only now he has the baggage of his own actions and attitude weighing him down. It looks like a long and very rough road ahead for him.

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'In Search of Christian Freedom'

by riblah in

i cross-posted this on reddit:.

i would love to have a hard copy of this book.

does anyone know about how to go about persuading the person who has the rights to print a batch?.

TonusOH

If someone is only interested in the contents, I think many (if not all) of those books are available online in PDF format. Some are even full page-by-page scans of the original, instead of just the text.

Edit to add: I am not referring to the books by Raymond Franz, which are protected by copyright. I would note that Crisis of Conscience is available on Amazon Kindle for $8. But In Search of Christian Freedom is not, sadly.