Posts by HereIgo

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Did you ever experience true kindness in the Org?

by HereIgo in

i remember when i was about 17, i started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped.

when i graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " i know you are not supposed to talk to me, but i want you to have this" it was a gift that he had custom made for me.

i was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before.

HereIgo

I remember when I was about 17, I started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped. When I graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " I know you are not supposed to talk to me, but I want you to have this" It was a gift that he had custom made for me. I was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before. I felt like such an asshole, even back then. It goes to show how corrupt the Org is and how far just simple christian kindness will go.

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A Brother refusing to pray?

by HereIgo in

i remember there was a brother in my congregation while i was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse.

i always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked.

knowing what i know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey.

HereIgo

Joey Joe, im starting to to agree that reproof was the reason. I was so young and naïve when I was in the org, I didn't know any better. He was an older bro, never gave talks from the platform, but was at meetings and always commented, which is why I doubt the nerve theory, otherwise I doubt he would even comment. He was a very intelligent man who im sure could give a prayer quite easily. Its interesting all of the rules and discipline that happens behind the scenes.

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A Brother refusing to pray?

by HereIgo in

i remember there was a brother in my congregation while i was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse.

i always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked.

knowing what i know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey.

HereIgo

I remember there was a Brother in my congregation while I was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse. I always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked. Knowing what I know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey. Has anyone else seen or heard of this?

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Odd choice of words

by Nevuela in

why is it that when a jw gives someone a magazine, they use the word "place" instead of "give"?

as in "i placed a magazine with him".

and why do regular door-to-door jws of no special rank refer to themselves as publishers?

HereIgo

It could all a subtle form of brainwashing. If not, then it's probably just organizational jargon. I don't think too many jw's give it much thought.

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Were you aware of the shunning policy when becoming a JW

by UnshackleTheChains in

for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?

i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.

it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .

HereIgo

I was baptized at age 16 and was absolutely clueless to the shunning arrangement and a host of other illogical and senseless man-made rules. I heard the team "disfellowshipped" every now and then but didn't know too much about it. As I got older, the practice was the main reason why I left the org. I refused to believe it was something a true Christian would participate in.

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My mom contacted me last night...

by HereIgo in

as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

she found me on facebook.

HereIgo

Scully, good point, forgot all about that

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My mom contacted me last night...

by HereIgo in

as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

she found me on facebook.

HereIgo

Heaven, I agree, the society must really be pushing that message strongly for her to reach out to me out of the blue, same for your cousin.

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My mom contacted me last night...

by HereIgo in

as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.

she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.

she found me on facebook.

HereIgo

As I have revealed in other threads my mother and I havent talked in over 2 years. She has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to Jehovah. She found me on Facebook. At first it was normal chit chat, she didnt even know she had a new grandchild. The conversation quickly shifted to "son, i know you don't want to hear this, but the end is very near, there isnt much time left."

I replied:

Mom, when someone can explain to me why there has been over a thousand child abuse cases in Australia alone that have not been reported to authorities. When someone can explain why Geoffrey Jackson, member of the governing body denied his own faith during ARC questioning and stated that it would be presumptuous to assume that jws are God's only channel, but yet that is what is preached to millions of people by jws. When someone can explain why the end was predicted in 1914, 1925 and 1975 and why Beth Sarim was built in San Diego in 1925 to accommodate the princes of old then secretely sold by the society when the end didnt come. When someone can explain why the society changed their stance on blood and countless people died in the process believing that they were following God's orders. Maybe then, I would consider it. There are alot of dark things behind the scenes of the organization that you probably dont want to talk about. I doubt anyone could or would even want to answer these questions to my satisfaction.

She replied:

"It is clear how you feel. All of your questions could be answered if you put Jehovah to the test, but I cant convince you, you have to allow it, we will talk soon."

Did I strike a nerve? Thoughts? Was there a recent study article written about reaching out to "inactive" ones?

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Problems with the JW's noted for myself and others.

by Alostpuppydog in

below is just a list that i will continue to reference for myself while defending myself against the jw's when the time comes, which is pretty much every day.

nevertheless, if you would like to continue on with the list i have provided feel free, or if you would like to read it feel free as well!

i will continue to post more as i learn more and or remember stuff i forgot to post originally and hope this can help anyone else that is feeling similar to me.. 1.beards, get over it cry babies.

HereIgo

Good points!, I'd like to add to the list:

Unscriptural Disfellowshipping arrangement

Lack of love

Politics in order to move up in the congregation and obtain titles

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Your work is not in vain! Thank You!

by de-opresso-liber in

been lurking since early this year.

there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.

in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.

HereIgo

Welcome!

It is great to see ones wake up and begin living their lives