i'm outa here.
i need a break.
all the bloody infighting and then i'm attacked for asking simon to move something that i knew was harmful to someone who was abused.
A sick crazy person did a sick, crazy, evil thing, because of his worthless religious beliefs and because of greed. Worth discussing, I'd say.
exactly, six. Had it been just an article without any sort of religious aspect I wouldn't have posted it at jw.com. With the relgious aspect to it I thought some people here might want to see it......
i'm outa here.
i need a break.
all the bloody infighting and then i'm attacked for asking simon to move something that i knew was harmful to someone who was abused.
sorry...I moved it . I tried to move the entire thread but it wouldn't let me.
anyway, I was going to put it in the adults section to begin with but this article seems almost tame (at least to me) compared to some of the stuff that's been posted in here lately.
apologies to anyone that was bothered by it.
since the lite gets brighter and brighter and jehovah always reveals his confidential matters to his servants, what new light will we next learn?
not sure. seems like they pretty much break the rules whenever they want anyway.....
yeah birthdays, disfellowshipping, blood.....all depends on when they get the new batteries for their exclusive new light flashlights.
my name is donna.
i was directed to this forum through freeminds.org by randy watters.
i found his site to be very helpful to me and i highly recommend it to other newbies.
That was a sad story but glad you and your husband are well now oh, and welcome to the board.
according to the 8-2-02 sallisaw newspaper, the sequia county times, a local ministerial servant, joseph cowan iii, 25 years of age, was charged with improper contact with a girl 15 years old on june 22 and july 5. it was reported he confessed to his wife and local elders.
this newspaper is not on line, but i was called by a local brother who read the article to me over the phone.
he will be sending a copy through the mail also, but i just thought you would want to know in case you are passing through.
Just curious if there is anymore on this story? or if the story is scanned somewhere and I missed it.....
sea
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it started out having a bad day.... no babysitter had to miss work , friend came over so i went to get a haircut, she followed me there and took care of michael, on the way home, on the freeway, i was on the the third lane to the left and the car engine shuts off and i had to get three lanes over to the right, in major traffic, i barley made and the car dies.. i started to panick cause it's dark and i have michael and i'm on a freeway.... so i get michael and start walking and praying, and this man pulled over and i started to get even more nervous but i accepted the ride, he took me to a gas station and well his truck was really high , like three in a half feet, well i had forgotten about that so when i steped out of his truck i fell with michael in my arms he started screaming and i started to ball my head off.. okay here's my point like 3 people there helped me, the gas station let me use there phone and gave me something to drink, a couple wouldn't leave until they knew i was taken care of offered me money for a cab or tow truck, they waited like 15 minutes.. i thought of you all, who really didn't know me, but were there for me when i needed it the most, there are some really great people out there, and it doesn't matter what religion you belong to.
Sorry I missed this thread....so many here I can't keep track!
There are some really great people out there, and it doesn't matter what religion you belong to.
I think that about sums it up. Growing up, I got so sick and tired of the "JW = good, non-JW = bad" crap. To me that was a pretty simplistic way of looking at things, and--I felt--totally wrong. I tried to make myself believe the JW way, but it never worked.
P.S. Glad you're ok
sea
i feel so sad that this has happened, my thoughts go out to all the familys and friends, what can i say?.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2199785.stm.
frogit
yeah I heard that they apparently found Holly and Jessica. sad.
I live in the midwestern USA and try to keep up with foreign (BBC, Haaretz, the republic, etc) and domestic news sources.
The only American news source that I've seen this case was on the CNN website frontpage maybe a day or two ago. I don't know if it was on CNN television.
my disfellowshipping
as with anyone associated with jehovahs witnesses the worst possible news anyone can have is being df.
it means a loss of everyone and everything you have known all your life.
When the first one goes down in court, they will be drawn and quartered. There may come a time when lawyers advertize for JW molestation victims as it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
This is something I've been thinking of a lot lately. Even from my outside knowledge(not being directly involved) I know this is coming and have told the people I know that I think it's gonna be a tidal wave. With 44 ppl suing the Hare Krishnas for $400 million and the Hare Krishnas facing possible bankruptcy, and the WTBTS having loads more sexual-abuse cases, it becomes quite clear where this is possibly going.......
my disfellowshipping
as with anyone associated with jehovahs witnesses the worst possible news anyone can have is being df.
it means a loss of everyone and everything you have known all your life.
Big Tex. You took word-for-word what I was going to say right out of my mouth.
jesus said you will be known as my disciples if you have love among yourselves. There isn't any at the halls and the few ppl that did have it are all being kicked out/forced out/leaving, etc.
Edited by - seawolf on 16 August 2002 2:15:12
Edited by - seawolf on 16 August 2002 2:17:22
there are so many horror stories about elders.
many people dislike or can't stand elders, in general.
a number here have been truly hurt by some.
uhhh I'm sitting here trying to think of a time that an elder helped me. I know a few times that they tried to help me but it was too little, too late.
I guess I'd have to say no.
Some of the elders started off nice and caring. But eventually they got all cold and uncaring and greedy and only caring about their own immediate family and elder royalty.
