it depends how the idea is delivered. I should have the right to silence instead of unwanted noise.
written ideas are fine.
ok, i would like to submit to the forum the following question: in abstract, do you think that there is a right to not being exposed to ideas that you don’t like or disagree with?
please think it through and its implications on both ends of the spectrum.. it’s not the right to conscientious objection to do something you vehemently disagree with; it’s not about the liberty to chose which ideas you want to embrace or advocate.
it’s something different.. given that, as exjws, we understand the importance of being exposed to different opinions in order to form our own opinion, should someone claim the right not to be exposed to opinions or ideas that they don’t like?
it depends how the idea is delivered. I should have the right to silence instead of unwanted noise.
written ideas are fine.
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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colporteurs were basically book salesmen
Ds: right ! in the french, col like parcel, porteur, as in carrier. sounds fancier, than delivery person.
There was an old photograph published by wt lately, that showed a lady pushing a bike, converted to carry books in the middle of the frame, with the caption that she was delivering the literature that had been previously ordered.
To think that wt classes this activity as "Doing good to the brothers of Christ", as per final judgement of the goats and other sheep.
can anyone remember the reasoning the watchtower gave for jesus speaking these words?
if you have a reference that would be even better!.
EO, that is a new one to me, the body talking to his spirit as it leaves him, to go to heaven 40 days later. Lingering to have a body again, or the same stored somewhere.
Glad we did not have that sophistication at the doors when we did battle.
may be pray is not the right word, but any creative or caring-for person must somehow link to the source,or feeling connected to the cause of what we are living in.It is really hard work to create, or re-create, or even research something, and the process itself is kind of a prayer back to the source. I doubt that died in the wool atheist are hard working creators.
for whatever reason i was thinking on the topic of jehovah's witnesses' practice of disfellowshipping its members based on the concept of preventing "bringing reproach on jehovah's name".
follow me if you will -.
over 20 years ago a friend of mine did something rather crazy; he committed a major crime.
wt policy was, to disfellowship a person if there was "notoriety" public knowledge of a criminal act, even if the person was repentant.
for whatever reason i was thinking on the topic of jehovah's witnesses' practice of disfellowshipping its members based on the concept of preventing "bringing reproach on jehovah's name".
follow me if you will -.
over 20 years ago a friend of mine did something rather crazy; he committed a major crime.
That shows how wrong it is to cloak yourself in a name or concept so lofty, that even the reputed "son of the deity", named "Jah is salvation" would not utter it. utterly wrong to name yourself that way,
when i see watchtower videos or interviews i can’t help but notice how bland and boring jws really are!
they are so vanilla.
no excitement, just robotic conversation.. what the hell happened to these people?
impossible in the affluent World at least, to make a convert
Ph, precisely. particularly now, , when wt has standardized the "presentations" at the doors, now the telephones. never an intelligent question from the "householder" scheduled. and wt statistics shows that every habitant of the world gets 10 minutes of such boring exposure per year.
when i see watchtower videos or interviews i can’t help but notice how bland and boring jws really are!
they are so vanilla.
no excitement, just robotic conversation.. what the hell happened to these people?
There is no originality allowed, which of course is the essence of refreshing progress. no competition with the thinkers at the top. repetition for emphasis only.
it has been 40 years since 1975 when 6000 years of human creation took place according to wt theology,when jesus christ was supposedly to begin his 1000 year reign in which earth was supposed to be turned back to an eden like paradise.. 1975 was the second attempt of the wt to predict when 6000 years of human creation took place,the first time it was supposed to have occurred was in 1872 .. so by that reckoning we should be living 40 years into jesus christ`s 1000 reign .. on the other hand wt theology states that jesus returned in 1914 to do what ?
sit at his fathers right hand until 1975 ?.
of course this all hinges on jehovah`s witnesses / watchtower belief that a creative day was 7000 years long that they taught for decades .. do they still cling to this belief ?
s3, you are playing loose with the numbers, just like wt. it is 46 years. That means I could have lived more than half of my life in paradise, had that calculation had any merit, or basis. but, we have been had.
wt said over 50 years ago: "--it would be appropriate if in 1975 the millenium would start-- " the deity obviously did not agree. it was one of wt's inappropriate pronouncements.
Jesus does not wear his wt triara yet, ruling over 1) the kingdom of the love of the son Col 1:13, 2) the kingdom of 1914, and 3) the millenium. no reason to panic though,
wt predicts now, that 2 centenarians being contemporaries for ~20 years, starting at ~20 years old, like F.Franz was in 1914, will bring the crucial generation,the time for the middle tier of the tiara, to
2075.what is a 1 and 2 zeros and a one between friends?
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Matt 24:45 doubtful interpretation
sbf: particularly with the 1919 appearance of that end time feature, and " The world has ended, millions now living will never die" the main message of wtBtS inc.