Posts by waton

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How does the "slave" turn 11 into 500?

by The Fall Guy in

at matthew 28:16, the alleged "faithful slave" changes the number of people whom jesus invites, from 11 to over 500 - in order to "prove" that men, women, and children were commanded to preach.*.

3 - “jesus’ 11 faithful apostles...went to a mountain in galilee to meet the resurrected christ!....“upward of five hundred brothers” may have been present on that occasion.” (or may not!).

other disciples are there too, about 500 of them,.

waton

When you picture the man (or already incarnate spirit) giving the command, it would be not be a yelling, but earnest insisting speech, only the closest would hear it, not 500 if they were present. It is said he appeared to 500 brothers, not that he had a "service meeting" Christian living portion with families gathering.

While we are in wt fantasy land: May be the 500 were the fellow revived ones that had come out of the graves and entered Jerusalem, now eager to learn what caused their unexpected new, temporary lease on life?

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Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'

by frankiespeakin in

jw
friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.

waton

BBW, they’re going back down.

Yeah, intelligent ladies have fewer children, but they should, and the ones with the maximum brood are at the opposite end of the SAT test (if any). and then there are the screens, buttons stifling thought.

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Revised NWT in French released yesterday

by careful in

https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/revised-nwt-released-french/ .

it looks like it may only be available electronically, that is, no printed version(?)..

is the german next?.

waton

This tower of Babel nightmare is still with the tower, and the GB knows it first hand.

There was an episode implicating David Splane, who was stuck in presenting a "drama" with the use of Quebecois actors and audience, but Parisian tapes.

The attempt to create locally flavoured audios was less than stellar.

Thankfully there is a solution for the Spanish arrivals in America, learn english too, , the language of the land.

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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

by Bad_Wolf in

one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

i was raised into it.

waton

The idea of an endless life, however, was never a question, had appeal for me. it was just assurance that life period would be guaranteed by an armageddon ( destroying those that destroy the earth) event.

M.a.d. has assured that. so, we can do nothing about any miraculous , beyond our ken, future happenings. so I am happy, because I have valued, fulfilled my present life more, because I did not count on a future one, promised by wt or bible writers to happen.

The universe will move on into the future, thanks for the great ride!

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Jehovah's Witnesses are fleeing Russia

by James Mixon in

jw's fleeing russia crackdown, seeking shelter in finland.

today in my local paper under faith, by andrew higgins the new york times..

waton

well, all the witnesses crossing the border have to do is saying the "A" word, no, not armageddon, " Asylum ". under UN and EU statutes they are immediately entitled to all benefits, and with that free time

Can start pioneering right away. courtesy of Finnish largess.

Worse, they could go the Latvia, Lithuania , Estonia, bolster the Russian minority there, and furnish Putin an excuse to do "crimea" there too.

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Irrationality of in important teaching

by Ireneus in

jesus used illustration to make things clear.

hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

waton

The purpose of Jesus sacrifice is abundantly clear. His life for yours....that's the offer on the table. We won't get another.

It is to undo the work of the devil, which leads us back to the talking snake. making the undoing a fake.

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What you reckon? (I'm talking in my normal accent)

by punkofnice in

there was this really lovely old geezer in a congregation i was in here in the uk.. he was an old bloke and very frit of giving talks and that.

when he was on the platform he'd be bleedin' scared...like an elephant near a bloody mouse.. so, 'ere's my question, right?

blimey.

waton

did it enrich his life? I like your accent.

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This Article Won't Change Your Mind - Great Read

by cofty in

this article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.

brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.

it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....

waton

excellent cofty, thanks, will refer back to it. a goldmine of insights, sample:

higher intelligence will serve only to come up with better arguments to defend a wrong position of your group (jws, creationists etc, )

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Elon Musk causing an uproar on Twitter

by Tallon in

elon musk has called one of the thai cave rescue divers a 'paedo' on twitter.. this could prove to be a very costly post should the diver sue him for defamation.. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter.

waton

Reading between the lines, it seems he is coming under extreme financial pressure, and while this has been happening, he has been saying some strange things to journalists. I am pretty sure where this is all heading.

He has been accomplishing some amazing stuff, landing two of his boosters backward side by side on return in Florida, while achieving past Mars orbit!

Why he did not leave the manufacturing to the manufacturers ? Anyway,

Money well spend! Can not think of any better cause then one, related to his continent of origin.

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Elon Musk causing an uproar on Twitter

by Tallon in

elon musk has called one of the thai cave rescue divers a 'paedo' on twitter.. this could prove to be a very costly post should the diver sue him for defamation.. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter.

waton

Elon Musk is a fellow New Zealander. Quite frankly, to most kiwis he's a Johnny-come-lately embarrassment.

I thought he was from Canada

Is he not an African? I thought his kid-sized capsules were a great idea, even flexible versions if the passages really were too narrow. But, obviously the boys walked to their refuge place, not wiggle in, having to wiggle out. (bunk by divers). Lots of pedos in Thailand, just by averages Musk might be right. But that sounds like sour grapes by him, of having been shut out by someone eager to keep the spotlight, protect his turf, even while keeping the boys from a safer, more pleasant way out. Egos clashing, never good.