Posts by waton

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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?

by karter in

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one word for it.....apostate!

!.

waton

It's the equivalent of saying this system will still be here in 2059. pale.emperor

It can easily be proven that David Splane charted the course to 2075. Who would call him an apostate?

In the sixties, among my circle of JW acquaintances, many who had moved to "need greater" areas, none would have called doubters "apostates". One zealot called indifferent ones "having lack of faith"

I can not believe that I was in my mid 40s at the time. Glad to have realistic expectations now, making the GB 2075 timeline irrelevant.

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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?

by karter in

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one word for it.....apostate!

!.

waton

Jw: "--you bet! can I sell you my house? it will be a worth a fortune then.

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A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

by LisaRose in

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

Very sorry to read that, what happening to you. Get the message out: to have ladies avoid any such situations and their prior build up to them, Males will interpret any opennest to "fun" "partying" as a pathway to the climax. Evolution primed them for this, it worked and that is why we are here, the way we are. but know better. in sober moments.

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The Elephant in the room: ExJw disunity

by Diogenesister in

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fantastic new video by the lovely susan gaskin and friend andrea discusses the huge variety of exjw opinions and why our supposed disunity is in reality our strength.

the witnesses will claim we cannot agree and there are nothing but fights and a lack of harmony within our community whereas they are the most unified religion who believe the same things where ever you go.

however andrea points out that this is just an illusion, there is no unity amoung jws.

waton

Each one of the dissenters is an expert in their own field, be it doctrine, procedure or human relations, and could single handedly deal devastating blows to their individual JW protagonists. wt has no such self trained, motivated people. . But let the lock step phalanx of the org go on, their strength is their weakness.

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Israel (Is Real?)

by TerryWalstrom in

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every nation is a kind of weird intellectual construct.

when we say: china--all of us get some kind of fictional mental snapshot in our head.

sure, there is a country called "china".we just don't really know a soul living there.

waton

Is that a story of a religion or a family? I wish my family had made the attempt to keep it's history or at least a version of it. With all the money in the world in that big region, why can they not make the desert bloom and make room for all of them, and then some?

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Israel (Is Real?)

by TerryWalstrom in

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friends

every nation is a kind of weird intellectual construct.

when we say: china--all of us get some kind of fictional mental snapshot in our head.

sure, there is a country called "china".we just don't really know a soul living there.

waton

Millions and Millions of people were displaced in the last century. At what point are we willing to stop rewinding history, to the past?

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Larry Graham's motorcycle

by neat blue dog in

so i was browsing through larry graham's official facebook page, and one of the posts was that his motorcycle was for sale on ebay.

the auction already ended, but you can still see the title of the listing:.

"clymer harley-davidson sportster evolution, 1991-2000 (2000, hardcover)".

waton

it is like wt INC. selling paradise and the only thing you get is a book.

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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.

by smiddy3 in

they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.

{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.

} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..

waton

So there will be death in paradise? I thought there will be "no more death... for the former things have passed away" (Rev 21:4). Simple question. Wonder how a JW would answer that?

There are overlapping deaths. the 1st death is overlapped, swallowed be the second death.

the sinner will die young, even though perhaps 100[s] of years old. (Isaiah 65:20) so, sin will have no detrimental effect on the body? ha ha.

All those rebels after the perhaps even after 1100 years of life, and harbouring rebellious, potentially sinful thoughts will be perfect, young during the final attack.

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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.

by smiddy3 in

they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.

{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.

} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..

waton

encircled the camp {not a Nation but a camp} of the Holy ones.and the beloved city.

clearly there will be new light on this, holy ones are the partakers, supposed to be in heaven by then. The beloved city, New Jerusalem, or the one above? , having come down from heaven? Apostles and tribes of Israel written all over them?

Even if you are only bait, as the OS are supposed to be at Armageddon, it is no fun, better than the movies though.

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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!

by darkspilver in

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2017 grand totals.

branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .

number of lands reporting: 240. .

waton

Partakers are up again...but not to the degree in the last couple years

If the F&D Slave can be in the last days only, then the 144 000 can be in the last days, the " Lord's Day " since 1914 inclusively too, and overlapping to boot. wt has until 2075 to reach that partaker number. minus departed "anointed" of course.