“october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .
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"The kings had their day" , this idea, that the rulers: Kaiser, King and Zar, and your local dogcatcher were now illegitimately hanging on to their power, may have been behind the unscriptural teaching introduced circa 1929, that these were not the "superior authorities " of Romans 13, but that J1 and J2 were.
It took wt ~60 years to legitimise the "worldly" governments again. This flip flop indirectly acknowledging that Church doctrines migh be right, wt wrong.
we know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".
but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.
i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??
even in the gymnasiums that the sons of the elites of the time attended, the young men would compete naked. fts
The word for naked in greek is gym. so you were expected to strip before entering it. Not a good idea today in your high school setting or in germany where aome high schools are referred to as Gymnaseums. Gymnastics no sans gym.
stanlivedeath: Speaking of design faults, dwarfism of the foreskin can be very painful and odorous after puberty, so circumsion, however often it takes to get it right, is a freeing experience.
hi guys.
sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.
just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.
did Jesus say "this" generation would pass away or not?
either way, wt wrong.
If it is the sheep, will they pass away after all these things happen.
if it is the anointed, they must pass away before all these things happen
only the wicked generation fits the bill, and that includes the slave, wrong or evil.
so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.
restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.
applicant: that's insulting!
elders and ministerial servants--aren't really leaders. They are the sycophantic followers of the real leaders, the Governing Body (although I frequently think they are just puppets, ...jp1692
That does not prevent some really inflated egos to take on that role, doing a minimum of work and barking (thinly disguised) orders from their haughty position of oversight.
so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.
restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.
applicant: that's insulting!
yeah, they have taken the lead away from everybody else, whether jws like it or not.
didn't know exactly which subject area to put this under, but i was curious about what you guys do around this time for holidays, particularly halloween.
my view on halloween in particular has always been as this pagan, demonic celebration.
even now that i discovered ttatt i still feel the same way i do about halloween, i don't ever think it's something i'd celebrate.
since Ha low ween is fiction, like Santa, the bible, why perpetuate the fantasies into our young ones? how about reality based fun?
elon musk believes we are and he's a pretty smart guy that runs spacex, a lot black hole physics may seem to present the 3 dimentional space as a hologram of a 2 dimentional sphere.. i think this is open for serious debate.
what are the pros and cons?.
This new scientist article contains the idea that such other-dimensional representations of reality is what takes shape in our minds. This link is to add to sbf's comment:
.. the possibility that a philosopher or a computer scientist may have insights into the nature of reality that I am not.." sbf
The article argues that 7 dimensional structures are created in the brain to establish perhaps even consciousness.
a simulation not of us, but of a greater reality in our brain.
so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
You are an idiot if you believe bible teachings. Hb
I believe the bible only to the extent that it exists. Just its first verse contains an error of 10 billion years. that is 10 decimal places. but
as a debating evidence to disprove current wt doctrines it serves well.
"Idiots" might be the wrong word, the billions that were swindled from jws, were not earned by idiots, but hard working striving individuals, not mental vegetables.
my spies tell me that the jobos recently had a broadcast where 2 scriptures have been changed.. luke 22.26you, though, are not to be that way.
but let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering.. 1 tim 3:1this statement is trustworthy: if a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work.
i don't have the tech to locate the broadcast right now.
The word overseer does not convey the idea of a participant in the work, but I have seen elders assume that role. Of course often they are in the same mess than the cases they judge.
elon musk believes we are and he's a pretty smart guy that runs spacex, a lot black hole physics may seem to present the 3 dimentional space as a hologram of a 2 dimentional sphere.. i think this is open for serious debate.
what are the pros and cons?.
Plato proposed a situation, where long term prisoners chained to a cave's wall could only see shadows, and surmised this was the reality of the world out there. Upon release they realized the true grand reality.
With Mathematicians, way out cosmologists dabbling in higher and lower dimensions, Scientific American's fall edition "Cosmos" has an article on it.
If correct, the beyond, the past would not be simpler but more complex. interesting novel thought.
