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  Todays WT, study with worldy kids if you can

  by purrpurr in

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  according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.

  the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...

  in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?

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  waton

  That was just part of this WT.
  Another topic was the unique trial of someones mate dying, FedUp actually got to comment on this one.

  yeah,

  7. sister enters menopause without off spring, (obviously after trying for decades). For her plight:--- Remember, wt teaches that the restoration of procreative powers to females, survivors or resurrected ones, is not part of the return to perfection.

  8. A woman is "saved through childbearing" wt: "saved, but not to everlasting life", only from meddling in other's affairs , (like pioneering). ha ha.

  9. losing a mate? wt: "look to the resurrection hope", but wt teaches that the resurrected mates will not be reunited in marriage, even if there is one (mate, or a resurrection). . ( because there may be six others with similar claims) wt rules are rules.
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  Before I left I said this in a WT answer

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  this when i believed, i said no one really believes armageddon is imminent because we would sell our possessions and preach the remaining short time , i said we all like a each way bet.

  i was always a loose canon with the microphone.

  i once said if bible was in movie form jws would be forbidden to watch..

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  waton

  they follow it up by saying that is why we must have faith in the resurrection.

  JW _Rogue .my follow up comment. Armageddon would be the easy part, like Trump's itchy finger on the nuclear button, and it did not happen , destroying life is easy, making it hard.so: If

  wt can not even deliver destruction on time, what makes you think they can deliver life anytime?
  
  
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  So, would we call the GB our Uncles, Aunts, Sisters or Cousins???

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, so try and follow me here.... according to jw doctrinal teachings, the gb are "christ's brothers".

  humans are all "god's children".

  so does that make the gb our "uncles"?.

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  waton

  I am older then them, so, call them younger brothers. they are the first, so they are supposed to be our slaves. Brides? glad I am off the hook.
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  Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. bible

  not a very good idea to say the least.

  when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

  he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

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  waton

  Jesus: once brainwashed, the condition will become eventually seven times more severe, so avoid it at all cost. Luke 11.
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  Need some research help

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm working on another (fictional) book project and i need some historical help.

  i came into the borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement.

  i know that before that there was a presiding overseer who (as i understand it) ran the show.

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  waton

  A female jw with spiritistic tendencies and connections would be disfellowshipped from the "near Seattle / Victoria" area JW congregation, then would be free to roam. ties severed. so: plot, spin on.
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  Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.

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  waton

  You should have asked about the closet memorial partakers and not the closest to partakers.

  There are at least 2-3 times the people that do it private than in public. For various reasons, mainly that wt's idea of communion is wrong John 6, etc.
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  Need some research help

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm working on another (fictional) book project and i need some historical help.

  i came into the borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement.

  i know that before that there was a presiding overseer who (as i understand it) ran the show.

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  waton

  under the congregation servant (position for life) were servant positions (now ms) , literature servant, accounts servant , magazine servant , in very small congregations these were held by sisters even. other ???

  ps: vienne says it better and quicker
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  JWs shunning other active JWs

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  2. friends

  how many others have noticed how common it is for active jws to ostracize and shun other active jws?

  as far back as i can recall, jws have had an ongoing problem with cliques within congregations, and special needs talks would be given from time to time to address that trend.

  but, it seems to me that the practice has become even more pronounced with entire congregations actively shunning other congregations.

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  waton

  I always wondered though how all these judgmental Witnesses who ignored me were supposed to rise to the occasion to help during the "great tribulation

  It is actually the other way around, will you rise to the occasion and vouch for them? because the Great Tribulation (with the anointed already in heaven), comprises the judgement of the "sheep" and the "goats" . If you were a "little one" in their eyes, maybe in Jesus' eyes these shunners will be of no importance to him too (he will judge the way they are judging), so--, bye bye, clic judgers,-- for good. (unless you vouch for them). pity them.
  
  
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  Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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  waton

  only what can be proven on a piece of paper.

  Morpheus, and that piece of paper is not the bill you see when you leave an "all you can eat" buffet restaurant. The amount is always the same, but: The amount of food that can be devoured in these places is astounding, 2 Prayer meals, to start giving thanks, when finished,--- asking forgiveness, for--- gluttony.

  Only bested by the habit of vomiting in the bathroom to have room to eat more. Size bsw, might be a hormonal issue, not only volume of food.

  Obese people seem to be already disfellowshipped from wt illustrations.

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  There are only 4 ways to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  there are only four ways of leaving the jehovah’s witnesses.

  so there are four ways that could lead to shunning.

  i say “could” because options three and four has some loopholes.

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  waton

  2a) you takes sides in the affairs of the "world" and for legal/publicity reasons, wt does not dare to disfellowship you, they declare that you disassociated yourself. really

  1a) disfellowshipping by another name.