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  Russia Threatens to Target US Jets in Syria

  by cofty in

  1. social
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  on sunday a us jet shot down a syrian military government fighter plane after it dropped bombs close to us backed kurdish soldiers.. russia who backs erdogan has reacted with a threat to target us jets over syria and withdraw from communication arrangements designed to prevent us - russian conflict in the region.. the threat of a hot war between the usa and russia is growing rapidly....

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  waton

  Is it not also strategic, to get a corridor, one way or the other from Russia, Iran, the Gulf directly to the Mediterranean, another ice free port, a crescent of Shia crescent flags through Sunni territory? A many faceted diamond, the hardest substance.

  As much as I hate to see Europe being underwhelmed by a "fleeing" population, I feel for all there, even the young men caught in the middle.

  US /Russian air battles ? has happened before, Korea, Vietnam, and probing on coast lines around the world.
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  The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.

  does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.

  i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.

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  waton

  It occurred to me at the time, that some smirking wt strategist viewed the episode as a particularly successful "campaign" that they feature all the time...like a hyper 30 hour aux. pioneer push at the CO's visit now in vogue.

  A steep curve in the frantic and unrelenting effort to increase membership, to keep the workers busy.
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  The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.

  does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.

  i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.

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  waton

  ... basically they were able to keep the majority of new converts since 1970 (700,000)... Hecce:

  In the aftermath, one Bethel speaker asked " What are we to apologise for ? or why?.... 700 000 new publishers.....?
  
  
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  Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

  that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

  do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

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  waton

  burden of proof is with the person making the statement, if asked. wt's jws are not asking. They do not want to hear it. None are so deaf than those that do not want to hear.
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  White clean shaven man runs over muslims

  by silentbuddha in

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  2. current

  so in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.

  why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.

  i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.

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  choice of weapons in this m0dern day duell,: white dylivert vans.
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  London fire..

  by zeb in

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  i bleed for the poor souls caught in that.

  no sprinkler system in that domestic building..!.

  tragically the govts various of london learned nothing during the world war..

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  waton

  dying in flames is a very painful death, hopefully many that died were spared that needless suffering because passing out from smoke poisoning, or asphyxiation, falling asleep for lack of oxygen.

  always hoping for the best, even for the ~60, nearly same number, that died more recently that way in Portugal .
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  8. Jesus appointed the FDS over all his belongings in 1919. (page 24, par 15,16) (changed until after the G.T.so

  is wt saying that the "anointed GB" will retain the function of feeding in heaven? after they go to heaven before the GT? during their fighting as immortals at Armageddon?

  I remember wt illustrations where they have the partakers strolling through the "new earth", directing the paradisefication proceedings! ha ha.

  Searcher I thought you meant all reversals that happened before 2013. The anointed after Armageddon vascilation has happened several times.
  
  
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  Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.

  i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.

  so who do you think is keeping all of this money.

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  waton

  The wealth is probably seeping out at the periphery, real wealth observable there. Do not expect intelligence that accesses that to leave you with insights.
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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  waton

  wanting to be there when the fan is being hit with the rhime.
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  Son finds JW parents stabbed to death inside their home

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tragic news.

  - limited information so far.. son finds parents stabbed to death inside north austin home.. abc7 chicago.

  sunday 18 june 2017.. a son discovered his two parents stabbed to death inside a home on chicago's north austin neighborhood, police said.. he found his 67-year-old father and 69-year-old mother fatally stabbed in the 1400-block of north leclaire avenue and contacted police at about 1 a.m., police said.

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  waton

  This does not look like the south side where life is so perilous.