never mind imperfection, even perfect people make huge mistakes.thing of jesus, he could have debunked the flat earth "theory", the Water above Everest myth, virus microbe cause of illness, mental illness vs "demon possestion" but failed to enlighten us, letting us wait for millennia of imperfect scientist to clear the air.
Posts by waton
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16The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.
by pistolpete ina recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.
the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.
in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".
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"A thousand years as one day"
by Awakened07 inthe scripture saying: "...one day is with the lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
" (2. peter 3:8) is often used both by jehovah's witnesses and others, to show that a day can literally mean a thousand years in the eyes of god.
this is then used especially for the creation story, and for the fall of adam and eve.
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waton
In james is mentioned that with the creator there is no turning of the sundial.
If you think of time as a fixed road over which everyone travels into the future, In the bible stories, the father is depicted as either being stationary or moving slowly to see details, or fast to see long range developments. or create them.
time has to be eternal, existing to hold uncreatable, indestructible energy. the creator seems to be above all that, even not to have to create energy, but perhaps convert it into matter in the so called Big Bang.
interestingly, the scriptures do not speak of god as going back into the past, because it is empty of course, therefore there are "books, and scrolls", aka records that are carried forward through the present moments for future use.
timely fun fact: our presence in the moment, the present is short ( of zero duration) but precious, because it is a present.
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GB Says You Can Fellowship Without Being Reinstated
by Sea Breeze inthere is another way to fellowship with your loved ones after disagreeing with the wt besides getting reinstated.
all you have to do is fling yourself off a boat and start drowning, says watchtower:.
"suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.
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waton
a man of the nations”? Certainly not.
think about that: wt adherents spend 10 000s of reported hours (10 minutes for every human on earth per year) to win 1 human of the nations into their fold.,( make her too a wt salesmen) and scripture has it that the wayward person is to be treated like that.
what a welcome fresh breeze would that represent in jw's lives.
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Turning up The Insanity To 11
by FedUpJW inso a jw elder acquaintance sent me an email "encouraging" me to return to the organization, including this little nugget of a quote from today's wt session,*** w21 november p. 23 par.
11 how strong will your faith be?
***learn to trust those whom jehovah and jesus trust.
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waton
"do not put your trust in men, princes" aka elders.
Wt inc will fail them as before, see malawi, 1914, 1919, 1925, 1975, 2000,
all based on really funny, implausible bible stories,
funny comment too: "stand still" , as in a line of runners in a stadium at the starting line. for wt followers, running their never ending*** hamster wheel marathons.
*** always ending at their death.
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Watchtower talking bad about other religions
by asp59 indo you remember the time when every watchtower article seemed like a boasting session?
how great watchtower was.
they we're the only one with holy spirit.
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waton
how about the slim book wt published on the beliefs of other major religions, (search for god ?) was that not quite polemic free?
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Correct usage referring to the organization?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhich sentences are technically correct.
1 the watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 2. the watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 3. the watchtower society keeps changing its doctrines.. 4. watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 5. watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 6. the society keeps changing its doctrines.. 7. the watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.. 8. the watch tower organization keeps changing its doctrines..
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waton
none of the above, when it comes to doctrine, there is dis-organisation, even the shining light on past edition's cover was a cover up for mostly darkness, as we now know.
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JW case about documents in Germany
by Gorb ininteresting, and strange story about jw case in germany.. g.. https://hrwf.eu/germany-jehovahs-witnesses-sue-german-museum-for-archive-of-nazi-era-abuses/.
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waton
and there were no superior authorities but the deity and his son,
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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waton
Spasiba, Pyotr Pistoletiy!
woyna ni crasho tavarish putin!. ( from my contacts with soviet soldiers, may 1945.)
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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waton
I always wonder why the country with the greatest land mass, spanning most time zones, has to still greedily invade its neighbours as it did during all of the last century, (ask the baltics, finland poland et al.)
I feel really really sorry for the people caught in the perimeter of these repeat invaders.
Nobody wants to go to Russia*** now, either as immigrants or conquerors. Plenty of Russians would be elated to able to move to better places. *** except the likes of Lee Harvey Os
twald, so aptly named.Glad the Ukrainians have plenty of offspring living around the world to hopefully continue their great heritage.
P.S. It is now we wish that there were more. most of the Russian population, as Dukahbors, mennonites, amish, seventh day adventist, wt adherents.
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Facing Reality - It's a Death Cult (Romans 6: 7 Examined)
by Sea Breeze inwatchtower view on romans 6: 7 examined .
the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.
so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!
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waton
with that logic, only the wt Armageddon survivors need the ransom and a mediator, because they are the only ones never frying* dying for their sins.
** to quote A.M.