they are preaching to themselves at the meetings, via faked telephone calls and is watched on zoom. They are still sending letters, often written over days, inviting public to jworg programs. is that "preach the kingdom, then the end will come"????. ha ha.
Posts by waton
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by asp59 inif you are a jw you think god is punishing watchtower?
after watchtower got banned in russia and buildings seized, lot's jws said russia would be punished.
org kept losing in court with child abuse cases.
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think about all the possible outcome, then sleep it over, the answer is often right there.
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If the Almighty, Powerful, benevolent God had a book written for humans, what would it contain?
by pistolpete ini know for a fact it would not start off with a talking snake, magical fruit, invisible beings that desire beautiful women to have sex with.. and it wouldn’t end with a flying dragon, a two horned lamb, locusts that resembled horses with men’s faces, but with women’s hair and teeth of lions.
and the book wouldn’t allow for hundreds of millions of religions to spurt from it.
i think the first thing a book written by god would have, is that it would be written in a way that all languages could understand without being translated.. regardless of what language you would speak, we could read it and understand what it said.
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An open line to the author where real answers are given, or caveats like: I want you to do your own research, the best teacher.
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I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~
by Revealed in...why have you left the god and his son?.
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Abiogenesis is life from lifelessness, which was recreated in a lab (see Miller-Urey Experiment).
tbk. Abiogenesis has never been replicated. that early experiment and those of Louis Pasteur, produced, retained some organic molecules, but created no organism that reproduce, despite having all the ingredients.
we are the only ones that are at the pinnacle of the development from that quasi divine initially spark. It could have been inevitable from the big bang condition and laws that evolved. All done with eternal energy.
Just because we are coming near to understand how it works does not mean it was not good work in the first place.
evolution / devolution is the easy part, still happening.
Death is the better part of evolution, imagine if all life would be eternal, wading through all the critters that ever lived. Death might be an enemy for the young. but a friend to the really old 120+ (the present human record)
A better theory, fantasy would be that the " New Earth" : refers to the trillions of habitable exoplanets, that could be populated by recreated beings that have learned the hard lessons taught here
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So let's discuss the framework of gods plan for a paradise earth
by nowwhat? inso after jehovah kills 8 billion people "for not knowing him'" he is going to resurrect 100 billion humans because " they didn't know him" .
the 8 million jw's will be tasked with educating these ones.
that's 1 jw for every 12k resurrected ones.
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R why would you trust, speculate about the future based on scripture, when the record of the bible about the past is so miserable? 95 % wrong?
Even the present wt presentation, good for repetition the next 6 months: "hangs the Earth on nothing" is wrong, the Earth is hung on everything , that is, energy. every thing is made from/with energy. even orbital velocities.
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I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~
by Revealed in...why have you left the god and his son?.
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Science and history go hand it hand- except when getting far back in time!
R: Everything we receive is from the past, even sunlight which is 500 seconds old. Biblical "history" is not accurate messages, but hilarious stories from the past. such as: The planet Earth created in the Beginning with the "heavens", or like Eve, cloned from Adam.
Life is greater than the caricatures that the bible and the wt Bible, & tract Society inc. has made of it.
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The "Trinity" is not Biblical.
by Revealed insimple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
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Revealed, welcome, you might be relieved to know, that many here are left cold by the proposition.
subjects like that might be completely answered one day without any resorting to scripture.
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Help with 1975 please
by jhine ini answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .
i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.
how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.
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Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast.
What does that mean?
Fm: Acts 1:6 puts it even more direct, " It is not given to you to understand times, appointed times, which the Father has put in his own Jurisdiction.
Jesus must have meant bible research, interpretation, because the work of Newton, Kepler 400 years ago, allows us to predict Eclipses centuries in advance,***
Gen 1;1 sets the tone. it is wrong, the Earth was not created in the beginning, but 10 billion years later. The socalled days, the 1000 years per day rule follows. The "begats" follow, making things more wrong at every step.
which might be part of the cunning plan.
Jhine , yeah, wt wants all to be little working robots, programmed to see life as an endless series of sprints, with target dates, special campaigns, message trumpets, ha ha.
*** hope to see you all on 4, 8, 2024 @ 3pm 27 min 37 sec in really upstate NY. or sunnier location of your choice.
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Help with 1975 please
by jhine ini answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .
i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.
how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.
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old WTs which clearly state that 1975 was THE year .
Jhine, When you see wt writers, F Franz in this case, searching for a possible confluence of all their speculations, You can see why they flew that 1975 kite, to see if it would bring the divine Lightning discharge, to use the Benjamin Franklin /Thor analogy.
1975 was the limit of a natural 60 year generation, a kid turning grandmother, counting from 1914.
1975 also fitted the outcome of their "begat" sequencing.Bringing the 2 wt mistakes together,
wt now has the final generation as the anointed, dying before Armageddon. But jesus said that the generation would pass away after all has that endtime trouble has occurred.
So who among Armageddon survivors will pass away? make that to be the rebels that die after the 1000 years, after the creative days have ended, die forever after the rest day has ended.
make that "flying the kite" after 3075. (2 centenarian overlappers + 1000)
Newton would have it in 3060 btw.
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Help with 1975 please
by jhine ini answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .
i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.
how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.
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have ended, The teaching that the Millennium will end with the closing of the 7th creative day has not been changed by the WT . “God’s rest day will continue until his purpose in connection with it has been fully realized at the end of Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.” WT July 15, 2011
Fm, and that shows that wt writers are still totally wrong again, because after "the purpose is fully realized" the whole thing blows up again, because
after the 1000 years, after the 7 creative days have ended. after the rest day has ended,
in the following day, the camp of the holy ones is attacked from all sides.
taking a rest, thinking it is all over, and waking up to a new nightmare
to the tune the song : Monday, Monday.