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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  waton

  sbf, TD, right so:

  since the anointed in question and the general population lives through the same rime, the people in general during that stretched out time have ro be in overlapping groups too.

  2) the scripture speaks of the generation passing away. (but not until). so, it could not be the Other Sgeep, because they will "never pass away" but

  The anointed will pass away before "all these things occur", so

  assuming that the bible prophecy would ll have a second fulfillment, wt is already proven wrong.
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

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  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  waton

  Actually they did set another date for Armageddon....prior to the year 2000 Vdh:

  Frederick Franz died in 1992. Davis splane used him and older 'anointed' than him as an example of the "this [1914] generation" groups that overlap.

  In doing so he set another date: 2075. No risk in that.
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  waton

  do the math: Everest has been rising for 100 million years, it was flooded, with water rising for 40 days, everywhere. Even the 2 polar icecaps would have floated off their bases. The Colorado flowed once into the Atlantic.
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  waton

  all creation” meant the world as it was then known. dtm:

  to bible writers with their myopic vision and limited knowledge.

  that would exclude India China, the Himalayas. but

  wt uses 'Jesus', 'Peter's endorsing the deluge, and comparing it to the ending of the 'present world'. --- now think about that, ---if the flood waters did not really cover Mount Everest, Armageddon will be only local too, Black Sea, Megiddo area.

  about those giant old trees, with the first rain, falling on Noah at 10 meter heights an hour*** , they would be all uprooted and floating above Mount Everest too. probably big enough floats for the pandas, kangaroos, sloths to get off early and float back to their homeland rather than have to walk, hop back to their homelands.

  *** dothemath, do the math: 24 hours by 40 days = 960 hours of rainfall. Everest ~ 9600 m high. 9600 meters : 960 hours= 10.meters/h that is 3 stories submerged every hour, quite a story that is.
  
  
  
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  Out of The mouth Of 2 - 3 Witnesses Jehovah Never Endorsed Them in 1919 .

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the 2 or 3 witness rule to substantiate a truth about a matter .joh.8:17 , 2 cor.13 : 1. jehovah`s witnesses claim they were appointed by god in 1919 ?

  as the only religion that god was going to use to dispense food at the proper time ?

  and to lead his people by.. fact 1.

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  waton

  If the outfit that named it self whatever were appointed in 1918-1919, as spokesmen for the creator of the universes, then we must deduce that truth, and specific doctrines are unimportant.
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   ---  the queen, prettiest "king of the south" you have ever seen!

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. humour

  when daniel was discussed in the cherished private home "book study", that was the slogan that had been coined:.

  zenobia of palmyra, the queen, prettiest king of the south you have ver seen, sung to some ditty melody.

  making, having fun then.

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  waton

  t's almost as if they know they're just making stuff up as they go along...

  J: like the latest wt study, where the locusts are now not Jws, crawling into the windows and walls any more, but the soldiers of babylon, or today's daily text that applies Isaiah"s prophercies about building houses , no more anguish, to the return from babylon and not primarily to the "New World" promises

  Next thing you know, that "never die" will be declared "symbolic" as it has already become to millions that heard it.
  
  
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  Aren`t These Two Scriptures At Odds With Each Other ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  romans 13 ,1-7 contrast with 2 cor.4 : 3-6 ,on the one hand the faithful are to be obedient to the superior authorities ,worldly government ,law enforcement ,etc, as its gods arrangement and to go against it is to go against god ?.

  then 2 cor .4 : 3-6 states that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil and if you are obedient to that you are supporting satan`s system of things and going against gods arrangement ?.

  what sort of mental gymnastics do you need to acquire to accept both of these scriptures and keep your sanity ?.

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  gymnastics are good for you ; -trouble is wt does not allow ir.
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  Removing Historic Monuments and Statues - Does the Term "Historical" Make it Right or Wrong?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.

  you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.

  would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?

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  consider too, that statues of Hitler , The Duce, Saddam Hussein were toppled by the victors, white majority, excellence has not been toppled yet.
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  Alex Reinmueller

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for more then a year, i see alex reinmueller when i do a quickscan at jw broadcasting.

  is this the same alex reinmueller, who wrote the hapiness book?.

  he seems to young to be the same person.. does someone know here?.

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  waton

  Sie haben den Nagel auf den Kopf getroffen. TD

  Even in the 1930s I could not resist being bold, to be ein Witzbold.

  les double-entendre are a great teaching tool. so:

  we hope that many her become "rein" come clean. .
  
  
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  Alex Reinmueller

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for more then a year, i see alex reinmueller when i do a quickscan at jw broadcasting.

  is this the same alex reinmueller, who wrote the hapiness book?.

  he seems to young to be the same person.. does someone know here?.

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  waton

  cant resist some "foolish talk": what a croc having a name composed of "rein" like "into" and "muell[-[er]" american english "garbage" to use as a contributor to a jw effort.

  Muell rein, muell raus.

  really, though, some things, like jw's idealized moral standards are great. sind kein Muell.