In the new world roll call, and if there is an inspection,
and one is found to get no erection,
he is of the resurrection.
no r e s u r r e c t i o n. surr eal.
Posts by waton
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30Those who DO NOT get a resurrection?
by stuckinarut2 inso we know that by jw logic, the idea is that everyone who dies is acquitted of their sin and will get a resurrection in the "new world".
however, those directly destroyed by god, or at his command will not.
(for example, those destroyed in the flood.
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waton
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Anybody here a "bump on a log?"
by stillin ina brother used this illustration throughout his talk recently.
of course, it was meant to cause guilt in people like me or anybody else who might be prone to feeling guilty anyhow.
i approached him afterwards and said that he was speaking disparagingly of god's arrangement.
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waton
A bump on a log is now an area that is growing clear grain, grade 1 wood. ready to be harvested, like the estate of all the aging jws. a good wood, and typical wt illustration with an appropriate conclusion.
like the aging teacher (picturing god) that is bested by the genius student "Einstein" on the blackboard in the "bible teach" book. ha ha.
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Judge orders Jehovah’s Witness to release molestation files
by cobweb inhttps://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/aug/30/citylights-judge-orders-jehovahs-witness-release/#.
judge orders jehovah’s witness to release molestation files.
eighteen years of horror in linda vista.
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waton
Not in any way defending the truly disgusting actions, and the failure of the whole wt hierarchie from elders up, but
For the sake of one court case to demand access to the confidential file of all alleged suspected child rape cases, is over reaching, a thinly disguised phishing attempt. One case at a time please. Imagine the exposure of the wrongfully accused.
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August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing
by wifibandit inaugust 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
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waton
copying the world, Judgement by a [small] group of peers, it appears, and: "hands off our privileged class. They might be s.o.b.s, but they are our d.o.b.s
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Today's Text - Justifying The Increase Of Annointed Ones!
by Divergent inthursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.
2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
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waton
7,982,000 are just being bullied into not partaking.
partaking would be a minimum requirement for any baptised "christian" to be on his way to "everlasting life". then give up, to exchange that "gift" to gain immortality.
the wt count of partaker is as meaningless as their whole holy horror story, it is all fiction, like the foundation, the talking snake story, that is the basis of it all.
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Governing Body Members Autographing Bibles
by HereIgo ini have an online ex jw friend who pointed out to me that she stumbled upon a may 15, 1999 watchtower that had pictures of governing body members autographing bibles for people.
i have no bound volumes or cd rom copies anymore so i can verify.
two things came to mind, if this is true:.
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waton
I wish "Jesus "would have posthumously signed the gospels, verifying his supporting the Adam & Eve, Noah stories. Cleaned up my library, gave away "Mein Krampf", and they asked whether is was a signed copy. so, these can be gifts, authorisations, a product of treasure hunters.
Imagine if one could disprove wt doctrine to them from their signed copy, or argue a [heavenly] judgement case that way.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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waton
ttdtt's question likely relates to the only scriptural claim of wt concerning the 2 group generation, when "Joseph died, and all that generation" Exodus 1:6 is mentioned.
Picking the individuals and their ages of those contemporaries is not easy, and wrought with prejudicial error. (like the bible in the first place). so, sorry, I hope somebody can help ttdtt.
2075 is it.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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waton
he put the end before 2034.
that would only be a 42 year overlap from Fr. Franz, and less for those older partakers, that could have survived Franz, as mentioned by D. Splane, who would have been alive past 1992.
2075 is a more realistic upper figure.
Joseph age chronologies are notoriously vague, rounded up, convoluted. open to challenge, I would put my winning bet on the modern day, franz-like types.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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waton
I think you are trying to establish that by using a long lived, or short lived generation member , either in Joseph's oe Franz's time, David established different time envelopes. Wt writer were probably appalled that the 'older than Franz" scenario would kill the urgency by ending in 2075. The Joseph generation details would be very vague, a weak argument, as they are in the wt quiver.
The 1914 generation is dead, dead wrong, because it is now the anointed, and will pass away.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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waton
I agree, let us not trivialize this let us hear David Splane's two statements if they are on record. I am computer illiterate. but for a nerd it should be no big deal. I too am interested because Joseph and Cie. aside, if Franz and his older fellow partakers are the gold standard, we are looking at 2075. and we have it in their own, current words!