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  Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

  i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

  this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

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  waton

  many Jws are really partially Awake! and perpetuate the past, the Golden Age. in prosperity.
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  Why Are More JWs Claiming to be Anointed?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.

  they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.

  aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.

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  replacement, again, for there are more failed past partaker than we thought. or

  overlapping replacements?
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  Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

  i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

  this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

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  waton

  That the end generation is only the anointed.

  Most JWs still believe, that the generation that saw the beginning of the end, overlapping or not, will also see the total fulfillment, destruction of goats, paradise for sheep.

  Because jws are still stuck on Jesus' words that the generation will not pass away until all these things occur. It has not occurred to them that the anointed will have to pass away long before the end. and the beginning of the millennium.
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  Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  switzerland - .

  jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

  supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

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  and we thought the USA is the litigation prone region. Bern is stubborn too. There is an interesting related article in the first link where a blood type mixup let to the initial conviction of a doctor in 2011 for careless homicide. and

  Jws, wt are not a "race" because there are not enough of them. so no racial discrimination in the refusal case.
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  To help unsure to be more sure:.... To be saved from what? The effect of so called "adamic" sin, The lack of the "tree of life diet"? to be killed by the flaming sword?

  As jp1698 brought out in other words: To be alive is glorious, to live in the now, that so -important moment lingering in our minds as we move on through time.

  Looking for salvation keeps you from living to the best for all, and you.( Of course you have to improve yourself)

  Unsure, you have to realise that the bible is not what you think it is. It is not the creator's word. Jesus is part of the story. His biographers , so called , believed in a flat Earth, a flood covering everest, dead leaving graves walking into Jerusalem, pigs being demonized jumping off cliffs. You need to be saved from believing in stories like that.
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  Isis and failed prophecy

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everybody, hope you are all well!

  i read this today and thought of the jw's and you guys.. it's an article from today's paper about isis and a recent victory over the town of dabiq.

  isis have long claimed that this will be the city where good will face evil i.e islam v christianity/western powers.

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  It would be impossible for a westerner to fully understand all the human, tactical, strategic and sectarian factors that go into the Kalphat conflict, The king of Jordan called the ISIS thing a generational divide, "they are not one of us"

  That they would attach a holiness to their cause, including prophecies and all, is no surprise. They are calling for human sacrifice too,

  I was part once of a dream of a sacred 1000 year reich, that lasted a full 12.

  acting as a prophet in the bible was describing symptoms of insanity, sometimes the bible has valid points.

  glad to hear from you S&R.
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  Has anyone noticed how Tony Morris is always referring to his notes ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i honestly believe he has memory difficulties, him and mr letts iq is not much greater than a rabbit.

  no the rabbit wins..

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  what the GB has approved S2:

  no, what the brains in wt have approved and/or redlined as things not to say. Wt doctrinal lines have to be very carefully managed, double checked. Even David Splane's remarks saying "we loved this idea" showed the idea was not originating necessarily with the composite seven f&d slave[s].

  David Splane would be losing his GB position if he would be allowed to let loose on his spiritual flights of fancy. so: use your theocratic ministry training stick to your notes, but keep audience contact Tony, Dave & all. The notes that are provided or double checked by the controllers.
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  Has anyone noticed how Tony Morris is always referring to his notes ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i honestly believe he has memory difficulties, him and mr letts iq is not much greater than a rabbit.

  no the rabbit wins..

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  waton

  In the Brooklyn discussion there was once a comparison made between Corporate WT Inc. and the "Governing Body" now known from 1919, as the "tail wagging the dog", and by all appearances, GB is the tail, but close to the end that dishes out not only hot air.

  hairy pets are loyal and beloved. will forgive owners all their faults, and jws it is always your fault. heads: you lose, tails: we win. love mixing metaphors.
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  Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.

  the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.

  i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.

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  here is a tip* " attending college is spiritually weak. "... he said that to prove that he is spiritually strong, he never went to college, a waiter's course instead. * thanks for the tip
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  Noah's shuttle ferry. A biblical defender's excuse?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we just realised that everyone has had it wrong!

  the bible even got it wrong.. noah didn't build an ark that stopped in one place.

  no my friends, it was actually more of a shuttle ferry that had multiple stops on its journey.

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  may be the ark broke up, and the survivors floated off on the debri rafts, in the receding swift currents, in different directions.? but

  who needs even floating, do you not remember the details of walking on water? and all those in the ark were not creatures of little faith, like Peter, who sank, or like Jesus who both endorsed the arkaic story now,

  That should leave the snakes speechless, and it did. .