contributions were good though sometime, when we were mistaken by already well oiled householders as carol singers, well wishers.
Posts by waton
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No go field service days
by Steel init's canada day today and not just any canada day, it's canada's 150 birthday.
for some strange reason i was actually able to reason with my wife day and she agreed with me.
field service on a special day wouldn't be appropriate.
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Interesting Thing My Little Girl Said Today
by pale.emperor inmy 3yo daughter lives with me 4 days and with her mum 3 days.
i have her tues, wed, fri evening and saturday all day.
which means my ex takes her to sunday and thursday meetings but she doesn't go door knocking on saturday because she's with me.. i dont mind - at the moment - because in a way i want her to know the jw jargon so we can talk about it without having to explain what it is, and i want her to compare the bullshit to the real world.
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waton
But at some point the message began to get in their heads. Fast forward to many years later and my daughter gets baptized when she is 16. ... my son is a different story. najw:
explanation? girls get to discuss real doctrinal stuff from the platform. wt boys only read the bible aloud for years. for some reason we stifles its males, pampers the females. a girls religion. Most "in" born in wt males are not mental giants, almost doctrinal illiterate.
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Illogical illustration of “the rich man and the poor man Lazarus” (Luke 16:19-31)
by venus inillustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.
if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.
the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: “happy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to them” (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of one’s heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categories—the rich and the poor. simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.
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waton
Vanderhoven7: your accent - free explanation reminds me of a story we learned in the 1930s, about a man in Holland named "Mr. Kannitverstan"
The writers of that Lazarus bible story introduced the concept of survival after death, almost transmigration of the soul as punishment into the bag of Jesus doctrines. one doctrine too far.--- fetched imo.
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For all in the USA - Happy 4th of July!
by ttdtt init's nice to say that:).
i am looking forward to a 4th party with "worldly people" and fireworks!.
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waton
Canada's July 4th will be July 1st. happy to all.
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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waton
this guy was building himself a new palatial stone faced trendy home. Cg:
with the tribulation so near, and people going to throw their money French = argent, silver; german = Gelt, gold into the streets, --- he put it in real estate. I always reminded them at that point, they threw it in front of their dwellings , not because it had no value, but because they feared to be tortured to reveal the hiding place, cut open if they were suspected to have swallowed it. The only thing that the controllers believe in is their power. their purchasing proves it. -
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Convention invitations
by dothemath inso everyone is supposed to get all excited about the invitation work starting tomorrow, according to the announcement from the platform.. maybe this makes sense if you're giving out invitations in the city where the convention is, but what if you're many hours away?.
a huge part of western canada is scheduled to attend edmonton alberta this july.
so how does that go over giving out invitations in winnipeg, about a 13 hour drive(that's just driving time).. i know some are actually planning on flying there, so i can't see getting excited about getting the public to make the trek.. i was curious how this is going over in other areas?.
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waton
Pathetic that all this churning is advertised, when you can watch the proceedings on your private screen. but for those hopefuls trying to find a mate in the bigger selection: good hunting.
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To kill or not to kill
by Chook inhow many jws would kill a violent rapist in there home or protect their family with lethal means .
the one thing i love about the usa is the right to defend oneself with lethal force in their own home.
it's not that i want to kill someone but better them dead than my children..
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waton
The moment you enter my home with intent, you have forfeited your life. If the stae will not protect me I will have to.
bright note, a lady in mtl ran down a thief with her car, , who had stolen her purse! pinned him underneath, and will not be charged. sad part: he survived to victimize again.
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Creation account is the creation of Moses
by venus inthe word `intelligence' [from inter, “between” + legere, “ to read”] would mean ‘discern things as though reading in between the lines.
now read in between the lines of what moses wrote; his favored and frequent statement is this: ‘obedience to god means blessings, and disobedience means maledictions.’ (deut 28:1-68; 30:15-18) let us try to discern his motive behind this statement.. .
when moses wanted to present 10 commandments and other laws, he naturally wanted to prepare the israelites with a mind-set that ‘we must obey god, otherwise it is problem for us.’ the best way for this was to modify a well-known story of fall from other cultures.
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waton
That is a valid question—why could not have the faithful ones who were living closer to the time of creation written something about creation? V:
Moses and cie lived only ~1/4000 closer to creation than us, and they were blind, compared to us with our better and better seeing aids. They were not dumb, do not run down your ancestors, but creation is still live streaming!.
Venus: thank you for those links, food for thought and room for refutation in every one of them.
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Suggestions for a JW Apostate logo
by Chook inif you can't upload one vote on others suggestions.
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waton
jaywaykee
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Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?
by minimus ini still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.
what about you?.
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waton
no. I would make them fork over their ill gotten gain, free labour, no taxes , but reap benefits, -- to those that toiled, serving the lie.