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  JW Double Standards and Hypocrisy in the Congregation!!!

  by Christian Gutierrez in

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  i am sure you have stories as well of elders being a hard ass on many, yet turning a blind eye to the 'sins' of their own family or close connections.

  cheers everyone!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma1auaur2o.

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  waton

  You have hit on a basic point of jws, they serve people not god

  Blondi, that would be nice, serving the people that are needy, serving soup, but they do not serve such people at all, they serve the wt. .org.
  
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  wrong, from start to finish, yes, wrong: the wt anointed anecdote.

  by waton in

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  the supposed start: at the last supper, the anointed were identified by partaking.

  wrong.

  wrong start: the only anointed present, jesus christ, did not partake.

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  waton

  The book that declares a snake talks promises everlasting life. You have your answer about who's anointed.

  waeo: yes you could expand the "wrong" start to finish" to Gen. 1:1 --No, the Earth was not created in the beginning and to end at Rev 22:20, : Yes, I am coming quickly".not. showing the lack of inspired knowledge, but this wt anointed idea error, is totally of their making. destroying any hope of any of their promises' fulfillment.
  

  Picking apart the errors and inconsistencies in WTS doctrine is the epitome of shooting fish in a barrel.

  sir82: son of a gun to do that, zeroing in, aiming at details
  
  
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  wrong, from start to finish, yes, wrong: the wt anointed anecdote.

  by waton in

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  the supposed start: at the last supper, the anointed were identified by partaking.

  wrong.

  wrong start: the only anointed present, jesus christ, did not partake.

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  waton

  We are talking here of 2000 yrs between scenarios.

  Fairlane: Yes, we do, but theses two wrong ends bracket the big elephant in wt's doctrine, the billions that partook during those 2000 years. According to wt they were wrong too.
  
  
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  wrong, from start to finish, yes, wrong: the wt anointed anecdote.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the supposed start: at the last supper, the anointed were identified by partaking.

  wrong.

  wrong start: the only anointed present, jesus christ, did not partake.

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  waton

  The supposed start: At the last supper, the anointed were identified by partaking. wrong

  wrong start: the only anointed present, Jesus Christ, did not partake. All those with an earthly hope did.

  The wrong future end: The last anointed, of the overlapping generation, will go to heaven, pass away, before the great tribulation, before the separation of the sheep and goats, before Armageddon, way before the end: wrong

  wrong: Jesus in Math 24:34: " This generation will not pass away--

  so: what is wrong with wt's view?

  to start: Rightful partakers were, and are not only the wt's "anointed",

  to finish: the wt's "anointed overlappers", can not be "This generation--" because it would have to survive the end, (like the sheep that enter everlasting life.) and wt's anointed do not.

  How can there be a happy ending for wt believers, if the hope is wrong from start to finish?

  Not endorcing only pointing out.
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

  by UBM101 in

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  waton

  djeggnog: I believe what the Bible says in its entirety, which is my choice.

  Let us test that, given your superior spirituality:

  Do you believe Jesus' end time prophecies in Math. 24, 25, especially 24: 34,( this generation will not pass away until all these things are fulfilled?) and 25:26? ( Goats depart into everlasting cutting off--sheep into everlasting life [at ~Armageddon]). ?

  
  
  
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

  by UBM101 in

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  waton

  d wrote: What does any of what I said about Armageddon have to do with the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses? Your Splaine comment means what about Armageddon were he to die? There is no timeline; no one knows the day and hour, so your rambling aside, why does it matter to you what Jehovah's Witnesses believe about Armageddon?

  The timeline published has everything to do with the GB. David had his chart. according to wt publications, the anointed will not survive the onset of the GT. be gone by Armageddon, they will have to, to fight in it, as bible-predicted. Were David to die, it would lieve Linda a widow, a class lady. WT Armageddon teachings matter to me, because I was duped to teach falsehoods about it, and too much collateral damage is predicted about it, with precision strikes like passover in Egypt claimed as possible. angelically.

  d wrote: What "Rapture"? There will be no Rapture,

  "jws hate using precise terms if they can distinguish from BTG, common wording, so: "called to their reward", gathered to heaven. instant 1st resurrection at death. better?

  d wrote: Why 2075? ls this a joke? ---
  

  Of course the overlapping generation is a joke, and David said that there probably are longer living anointed than Freddy Franz. FF "served" from before 1914 to 1992. > 78 years. add that to 1992 ( another freddy-like partaker overlapping),- gives you > 2070. allowing time for the departure (rapture), longer lives, and the GT prelude, that gives you the 2075 estimate. a nice anniversary for another wt failure.I

  d: I believe what the Bible says in its entirety, which is my choice.

  A choice that hopefully will not be final, because, while the bible is the basis for our discussion, it is not believable. My spirituality is beyond belief in ancient, outdated writings, that have such a tenuous connection to reality. Example: Gen 1:1 The Earth was not created at the beginning, Gen. 9: there was no flood killing all, cresting above Everest, ever. -------

  Creation, is too grandiose, majestic to be explained , understood by these stale stories, kindergarten reading level
  
  
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  Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?

  by why144000 in

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  according to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.

  wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.

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  waton

  no.

  PS: class started 50 days later first lesson: : Fire drill, second: languages.
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  "Has the Large Hadron Collider Disproved the Existence of Ghosts?"

  by unsure in

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  "if i understand what you just declared, you just asserted that cern, the european center for nuclear research, disproved the existence of ghosts.".

  "yes," cox replied.. http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2017/02/16/has_the_large_hadron_collider_disproved_the_existence_of_ghosts.html.

  what do you think about this relating to.

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  waton

  Quote: "- carries information about our living cells to persist then we must specify precisely what medium carries that pattern and how it interacts with the matter particles out of which our bodies are made. We must, in other words, invent an extension to the Standard Model of Particle Physics that has escaped detection at the Large Hadron Collider. That's almost inconceivable at the energy scale

  unsure: the key word might be "persist", like a ghostlike exoplasm, or "Samuel's apparition"

  It is nonsense to link a machine that replicates the energy levels of the big bang with whispy smoke and mirrors. he is latching on to something big for attention. agree with jp.
  
  
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

  by UBM101 in

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  waton

  the wine that symbolizes Jesus' blood was drank along with the unleavened bread (crackers) eaten by his anointed followers, so if

  djeggnog: before you question other's "spiritual maturity", please check you own! In Jesus' presence, there were no anointed followers eating crackers (with the sauce of the lamb stew.), they still had the earthly hope, (read the full account of Acts 1:6-8 cited in par. 8 of this week's wt study. ) and

  Yes wt teaches that satan, and angels had to use animals to communicate with humans, but that is at the child's level of Little Red Riding Hood and the wolf. You cant be serious to base your life on tales like that?

  
  
  
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  Why does Jehovah choose certain people to rule with him in heaven?

  by iWant2Learn in

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  in other words, what good works have the 144000 done to be secured a place in heaven?

  i am told they have already been chosen.

  does that mean that jehovah also knows our future?

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  waton

  Perry, a very good exhaustive summary, but it all hinges on the mythology, organisational spin the previous two posters (NN7 F) mentioned.