"Has the Large Hadron Collider Disproved the Existence of Ghosts?"

by unsure 8 Replies latest social current

  • unsure
    unsure

    "If I understand what you just declared, you just asserted that CERN, the European Center for Nuclear Research, disproved the existence of ghosts."

    "Yes," Cox replied.

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2017/02/16/has_the_large_hadron_collider_disproved_the_existence_of_ghosts.html

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    What do you think about this relating to

    all metaphysical occurrences said to

    occur by beleivers in our physical world?

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    I`m inclined to agree with Boss Vegas comments ,but then what do I know about such things.

  • jp1692
    jp1692

    Well those selected quotes proves nothing of the kind.

    For the record, I do NOT believe in ghosts, but Cox' line of reasoning (as presented in the linked article) contains at least two flaws that cannot lead to the conclusion promised in the title of this thread or in the linked article:

    1. First, obviously our bodies do move (Cox clearly knows this so I suspect there was more to his argument that was omitted), and
    2. Second, we still have no idea from whence conciousness arises.

    I kind of hate it when non-scientists report on things they don't understand. They so rarely get it right because they don't know what to include and what to leave out. The result is usually provocative sound-bites that are incomplete at best and mid-leading or just plain wrong at worst.

    In other words, Ross Pomeroy, I happen to agree with you, but you explained it badly and made Mr. Cox sound like a dogmatic prig.

    Because we can't currently detect or measure something is absolutely NOT proof it doesn't exist. The history of science is rife with many examples of things we didn't know about until we discovered or invented new ways of "seeing" or understanding. The change from the Ptolemaic geocentric universe to the Copernican heliocentric view is one notable example. Lavoisier's discovery of oxygen another. Both involved major paradigm shifts and a willingness to see what had always been there, but not understood because of the limitations of the current popular belief systems of how reality is and the limitations of current technology at the times to measure the phenomena under investigation.

    That is what makes science so exciting!

    But one must have an open mind. This is why almost all new scientific discoveries have been made by someone young or new to the particular field.

  • unsure
    unsure

    @jp1692

    I agree with what you've said.

    Cox's absolutist comments seem misguided.

    I don't know what I believe but I do know there is currently no objective, verifiable proof of the paranormal.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    How could the Large Hadron Collider Disprove the Existence of Ghosts?

    I don't follow you.

  • unsure
    unsure

    @Nathan Natas

    I made no statements in my OP.

    I merely quoted and linked an article and asked what forum members thought of it.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    So that's why the built the Hadron Collider.

    I thought it was for a totally different reason ?

    The aim of the LHC is to allow physicists to test the predictions of different theories of particle physics, including measuring the properties of the Higgs boson and searching for the large family of new particles predicted by supersymmetric theories, as well as other unsolved questions of physics.

  • biblexaminer
    biblexaminer

    I did an experiment in my kitchen and I proved the existence of chocolate. You will be able to see my research when I have it published. I am sure that by extension it will demonstrate that the earth is flat.

  • waton
    waton
    Quote: "- carries information about our living cells to persist then we must specify precisely what medium carries that pattern and how it interacts with the matter particles out of which our bodies are made. We must, in other words, invent an extension to the Standard Model of Particle Physics that has escaped detection at the Large Hadron Collider. That's almost inconceivable at the energy scale

    unsure: the key word might be "persist", like a ghostlike exoplasm, or "Samuel's apparition"

    It is nonsense to link a machine that replicates the energy levels of the big bang with whispy smoke and mirrors. he is latching on to something big for attention. agree with jp.