Ireneus
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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's
by Bad_Wolf inone thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
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Irrationality of in important teaching
by Ireneus injesus used illustration to make things clear.
hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.
you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].
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Without god what is the basis of morality?
by OneEyedJoe ini'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?
my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?
" previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.
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Great efforts to make something fake look real
by Fay Dehr ingreat efforts to make something fake look real from r/exjw.
interesting videos at http://tinyurl.com/jwleakedvideos.
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Sells out of KHs
by asp59 ini just wonder about the 3000 buildings that are gonna be sold out.
seems like a lot.
but how much is it in percentage of the buildings they own that are gonna be sold?.
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The bread pan illustration is totally flawed
by purrpurr init just suddenly occured to me today.... you know the jws always say about adams sin being passed on to his descendants that its like you have a bread pan with a dent in it and that every loaf of bread will then have a dent?
well that's fine for bread, cos your using the same pan.
but that's not how genetics work?.
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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"One drop of poison in a glass of water"
by stuckinarut2 intime to revive this well known, and often used jw illustration!.
"if you are in desperate need of a drink of water, and the glass in front of you is 99% clean, but contains just 1% poison, would you drink it??".
how often we heard this trotted out from the platform.. recently though, i have heard many examples of still-in jws sharing their observations about things that don't seem quite right with the current activities, direction and culture of the organization.
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Claiming “We are appointed by Jesus to spiritually feed others” is futile
by Ireneus in1)what jesus actually said was ‘he wouldn’t appoint anybody to dispense spiritual food’ (mathew 7:21-23); and what is purportedly said by jesus in mathew 24:45 could not have been uttered by jesus because of the very wording “slave” used in tacit endorsement of the prima facie inhuman practice of slavery, about which abraham lincoln said “if slavery is not wrong, then nothing is wrong.”.
2)people know what is wrong and even hate it when it is found in others.. 3)people know what is right.
see how the world responded with prayers and unsolicited help when twelve boys belonging to the wild boars soccer team and their coach were caught up in a cave in thailand.. 4)people know even what becomes wrong which was once treated as right.
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Blessings and Curses
by jws inbiblical blessings and curses have always been an issue for me - at least since i started to look at this stuff with a more critical eye.. so, what are they exactly?
i know the traditional sense of the words.
if you're blessed, good things happen to you.