consoles with company
i feel a sadness so deep that friends wonder why my art and my blinds remain undrawn.. gone is the muse who promised me solacewhile guys played ball and climbed tall trees.. a blank canvas before me says, "here's your life, where has it gone?".
is it too late to become what imight have become .
consoles with company
i disassociated myself 3 years ago but have never told my mother, as she lives quite a distance from me in the uk.
i've have told her that i no longer go to meetings, neither does my son, who is 16.. i haven't seen her for 3 1/2 years.
i offered to come visit this week but she was incredibly offhand with me and said she couldn't meet with me today as she was on the ministry!!
My mother and father were like that , meetings, ministry, their 'brothers and sisters' over for meals. Nothing but nothing got in the way of service to their god.
but when my mum got older she softened even my dad did too The last thing he said to me was reassuring that he loved me because I wasn't a hypocrite and that he didn't want me to change ... Even though we had had many disagreements in the years before he died about JW the UN fiasco etc and how Jehovah was a vindictive god so..
my mother too just wanted me there when she died even though I have many siblings
she said you have never lost your spirituality and I will see you very soon , she trusted me completely and always winked at me as if she knew the tatt ! That was after being a jdub 59 year.
so don't give up with family but stay true to yourself
i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
They are the most deluded stupid people on the planet, I am glad I got out when it wasn't as quite as dumb as it is now.
It is embarrassing to think my family still think they have the truth.
i'm at my quasi-thanksgiving dinner with relatives.
i hear a haunting sound from another room.
"is that a children's song?
I refuse to click on video and listen to even a micro second.
JW are the dumbest people on the planet, you can't do much about stupid.
it seems that many times in life there is a moment or an action that changes your whole world.
it could be just a look that someone gives you.. many times it can be something rather small.
something hardly noticeable by anyone but you.
What a brilliant original post.........it has really made me reflect on pivotal moments in my life.
walking out of a certain Kingdom Hall and knowing I never had to go back , the joy and freedom after attending there for over 35 years, The truth about the truth had set me free !!
i can just hear them now.
oh, how wonderful that the faithful and discreet slave is by going to bat for us against those wicked apostates who are always trying to dig up mud, especially from the older publications.
hey, they even go all the way back to the year 1870. hey, they even concede, with this timeline, the triple flip-flop of changes that the superior authorities teaching was changed to position no.
A silly analogy
long running soap operas obviously have many many scrip writers and they obviously don't know the full story or characters, but watchers do! The contradictions and impossibilities in episodes occur regularly and are obvious to lomg standing audiences.
Thing is this isn't a crap soap opera , it's real people's lives , real families , these men in America are messing with.
shame on them and in truth shame on those watching and not noting the inconsistencies
viewers are volunteers and can switch off , it takes more courage to open your eyes and see you are being duped by the story writers of the cult you belong to
of all the things that the watchtower has done wrong, what would you say is the singular most powerful thing that you could point a jw to, to crack their eyes open?
what is the singular thing that can be expressed bluntly and conclusively that might shock a jw to their senses?
if you could only carry one arrow in your quiver on your way to war with watchtower, what would it be?.
It might be a small thing but it always bugged me, that they used to charge interest when they loaned the congregation money. That they said we are not like other churches passing around a collection plate... No what they do is worse. The focus on money was ridiculous and I hear it's getting worse.
lots of things bugged me growing up as a JW but it was the offensive way they spoke about worldly people not seeing the rafter in their own eyes
the new light is an offensive and cruel argument it makes JW heartless especially the changes in blood, the denial about saying 1975 was when Armageddon was due .
i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.
i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.
i'm another born in, third generation.
As everyone mentioned above keep your cards close to your chest. There's no need to give them ammunition against you. Keep up to date by finding out a tiny bit of whats going in in JW land.
It took me 8 years to fade completely , I too am third generation all male family members elders pioneers etc. after being left now 16 years (where does the time go)
I used the tactic of really busy, not well , but how are you brother so no so, how is your wife children dog cat or whatever , people love to talk about themselves. As soon as I have sorted out these few personal issues I have you will see my smiling face once more
ok it's not true but it works, no need to be confrontational at this stage or any other stage until you wish to or want to.
That's my friend Henry!
most of us here have gone through, or are going through the various stages "cognitive dissonance".. this is a term used to describe a situation where our minds, and hearts just know that something is "not quite right", and therefore we find ourselves in a muddle trying to reconcile the things we know with the things we are hearing or being told.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cognitive_dissonance.
so just wondering, how many of you found yourselves (or still find yourselves) becoming phyiscally ill in some way during the time of fading?.
i know that when i look back, for several years even before i was awake to the many issues and facts about the society, i would feel ill at assemblies or conventions.
I was in agony sitting at meetings when I realised there was something seriously wrong, I would be screaming inside , many times I just walked out, difficult as my husband was the PO. I had migraines all my adult life until I finally left JW. completely in 2000. I went to post cult workshops and had counselling to come to terms with it all.
often I find in my dreams / nightmares I am at an assembly or Kingdom Hall trying to get out