Posts by Steel

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New to the truth

by MatthewHewey in

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i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.

i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.

so far, i love it.

144,000 v. Great Crowd Verses

by Ding in

we know that the wt claims all sorts of distinctions between the "anointed" 144,000 and the great crowd.

-- the "heaven" verses apply only to the 144,000; the "earth" verses apply only to the great crowd.

-- "unless you eat of the flesh of the son of man..." applies only to the 144,000, etc.. in fact, when you show jws some passage the wt doesn't follow, they often say, "oh, that only applies to the 144,000.".

Steel

Has it ever occurrd to anyone the JW use the book of revelations too basically void the entire new testament.

It's only for heavenly hopers who are solel represented by the faithful slave.

Building an entire dogma around the book of revelations is something no serious student if the scriptures can take serious

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new and confused

by michaelcabral in

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i am stuck on amos 4:11, jehovah said he will destroy the way god destroyed sodom and gamorah, is this a misprint?.

Steel

So

No one is getting the fact that Jehovah is referring to god as a separate person in that verse?

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new and confused

by michaelcabral in

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i am stuck on amos 4:11, jehovah said he will destroy the way god destroyed sodom and gamorah, is this a misprint?.

Steel

Between the old and new testament there is a 450 year period called the intertestamental period where god spoke to no one. There are a number of Jewish writing debating these odd passages in the old testament. How does god speak to speak? do we have one god or two gods etc etc. Strict monolistic Jews were not very comfortable with some of the passages in the scrolls because it made them look like pagans.

The general idea after the new testament was written was the visible manifestions of god in the old testament were actually Jesus Christ.

I can't put a neat little bow around it but when John wrote the word was god, that' what he meant.

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Generation

by Jrjw in

please could someone explain to me what the generation thing i keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before i became a witness.

Steel

I have always thought of the generation or generations explaination as just mockery. Like there is some kind of demonic force telling individual dubs " see, you are literally some of the dumbest mofos on the planet. "

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Anointed Delusions of Grandeur

by Kohanic in

so here is something i've been wondering about.

how do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen?

is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?.

Steel

The more i study the bible and especially the new testament, I don't think any sincere student of the bible can possibly accept all these dubious connections to the book of revelations.

JW theology is basically a belief the entire new testament and Jesus dying on the cross was essentially just for anointed Christians.

You are saved though your works and association.

Weird people would basically believe they are your ticket.

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Local elder dies of starvation

by Steel in

well , not really.. our hall recently had a secret collection for our head elder who is almost on the verge of becoming homeless.

i guess he lost some cleaning contracts because his clients were just sick of his no shows because of his pioneer work.

there is always something more important to do than earn a living.. this is the same assholes he is always shaming people to not doing enough.

Steel

Well , not really.

Our hall recently had a secret collection for our head elder who is almost on the verge of becoming homeless. I guess he lost some cleaning contracts because his clients were just sick of his no shows because of his pioneer work. There is always something more important to do than earn a living.

This is the same assholes he is always shaming people to not doing enough. For putting their careers over handing out magazines no one wants.

I hope my wife doesn't give this clown a cent.

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Birthdays are Evil - so they said

by EverApostate in

last week i celebrated my birthday.

accepted well wishes from people near and far.

had been happily accepting wishes from people since i quit the cult.. as a jw, (brainwashed ) belief that birthdays are evil was the stupidest belief i had in all my life.. when in, i had a hard time to explain to people that i don’t celebrate birthdays.

Steel

Hitler liked cheeseburgers

Stalin liked cheeseburgers

Cheeseburgers are evil.

The 1 plus 1 equals 3 mentality in the Borg is just ridiculous.

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Annoying jws

by Jrjw in

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a 'concerned' jw in my congregation rang me earlier and said she's noticed my daughter sits miserable at the meetings and said she's a right miserable girl in general.

i said she's happy and hyper when she's not at the meetings they're just really boring and she doesn't want to be there.

apparently i'm a bad parent coz she feels that way.

Steel

Tell her Wal-Mart now sells vibrators, out in the open. No need to visit some slimey sex shop.

Maybe that will get her to loosen up.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

Steel

Ask them to read the book of Romans and ask what parts apply to the heavenly hopers and what parts apply to those with an earthly hope.

Actually the entire new testament.