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  Birthdays are Evil - so they said

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week i celebrated my birthday.

  accepted well wishes from people near and far.

  had been happily accepting wishes from people since i quit the cult.. as a jw, (brainwashed ) belief that birthdays are evil was the stupidest belief i had in all my life.. when in, i had a hard time to explain to people that i don’t celebrate birthdays.

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  Hitler liked cheeseburgers

  Stalin liked cheeseburgers

  Cheeseburgers are evil.

  The 1 plus 1 equals 3 mentality in the Borg is just ridiculous.
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  Annoying jws

  by Jrjw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a 'concerned' jw in my congregation rang me earlier and said she's noticed my daughter sits miserable at the meetings and said she's a right miserable girl in general.

  i said she's happy and hyper when she's not at the meetings they're just really boring and she doesn't want to be there.

  apparently i'm a bad parent coz she feels that way.

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  Tell her Wal-Mart now sells vibrators, out in the open. No need to visit some slimey sex shop.

  Maybe that will get her to loosen up.
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  Ask them to read the book of Romans and ask what parts apply to the heavenly hopers and what parts apply to those with an earthly hope.

  Actually the entire new testament.
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  Are You Sure I shouldn't read that Apostate Literature?

  by zophar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the time i was a young pioneer, i wondered why jw’s could not accept when a householder offered to exchange literature with us /me.

  i just couldn’t picture jesus being afraid of what another might argue.

  obviously, paul was familiar with other religions.

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  Stupid question?

  Is apostate literature considered just anti wts stuff or just any Christian literature that isn't published by the Borg.
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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  Sorry, never a JW here. Just married to one.

  My real WTF moment was researching that blood nonsense when my wife was pregnant and seeing watchtower documents citing planned parenthood rulings about women's rights overuling fetal rights.

  I always knew they were anti Christian to a certain point but making an alliance with baby killing assholes was just too much.
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  New round of elders and MS schools going on, anyone have a inside scoop on any of the info being shared there?

  by optimisticskeptic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  confidential items are of most interest of course, just curious what they're talking about there in general and what are the newest things everyone is being warned about, etc.

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  Steel

  When I met a Jehovah witness at the door that seems to be an elder , I always ask him two questions.

  Which new testament book is the basic blueprint for modern day Christian theology. ( romans)

  Which new testament gossip is not considered a synopic gossip ( john).

  It's just blows them away. but but but did you know god has a name and he wants you to use it blah blah blah.
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  Have you ever thought what the primary teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses is?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it is not “preach the good news” nor is it “believe in jesus and get saved” neither is it “believe in the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses and get saved” although in practice they do teach this.

  no, everything they claim depends on a belief in another doctrine which logic decrees cannot be found in the bible.

  the leadership of jehovah’s witnesses put absolute faith in a protestant doctrine which is given a latin name, sola scriptura, meaning “by scripture alone”.. good evidence of the governing body believing in the primacy of this doctrine was when being questioned by the australian royal commission, they resorted to the ‘authority’ of scripture to defend their stance on having “two witnesses” when they are investigating child abuse cases.throughout the hearing they paraded their naive trust in the bible as the highest possible authority proudly ignoring the fact that most people regard it as having been superseded by modern scientific evaluations of what is true.. .

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  I am no bible expert but it seems to me the new testament seems to have two major themes.

  1. The transfer of blessings and promises from the Jewish people to the church or body of Christ.

  2. Becoming the new creature or person in Christ.

  Neither of these apply to a Jehovah witness. It all seems quite bizarre. The whole saved though association to the governing body and the organization.

  I wonder if the average dub really understands this?
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  "Are you humble enough to admit you were wrong?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.

  perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.

  may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?

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  An elder got up and called my wife a stain in the congregation right in front of me.

  Real humble
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  “...in the name of our Lord Jesus” explanation please?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am looking for someone to please clear this up.

  there are scriptures like in the 1 corinthians chapter 5 that refer to jesus as “our lord jesus”.

  the lord is jehovah, why does that scripture in 1 corinthians refer to the lord as jesus?

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  The general idea is when god revealed himself in the old testament, people were actually seeing and communicating with Jesus Christ.

  The term LORD or Jehovah becomes somewhat ambiguous between Jesus and his father because of that fact.
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  Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

  by rulehayl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

  my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

  she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

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  Steel

  you do realize the entire religion is a belief that Jesus only died for anointed Christians who are solely represented by seven men in New York City. though your works and obidence to seven men in New York, that is your salvation.

  basically the entire new testament isn't for you. just to be clear

  If you know about the history of doctrinal flip flops, the altered new world translation and what real bible scholars think about new world translation you don't need to worry about your relationship with God.

  you don't have one.

  you are just a lonely idiot in a club.