so i was reading thru a fb feed about poor chester bennington and in relation chris cornell, there were some rather heated and unusual (or usual whatever you may think ) comments... no disrespect to believers but since leaving the jws i just see this type of discussion as lunacy.
... "chester is going to hell ,he killed himself so it's black and white in god's word ."..
"why would a loving god send a person who suffers from mental illness to hell?
Second point. Even if medical science is wrong and she was actually dead, how does she know the guy opposite her husband was Jesus? It could've been Muhammad, Thor, Baphomet or some other undiscovered deity.
Because her mind would have shown Jesus looking exactly like how she has been conditioned to think Jesus looks. A Muslim would see Muhammed, a Buddhist would see a typical image of Buddha and so on.
The mind is an incredible echo chamber of confirmation bias.
i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.
what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.
has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.
Fortunately didn't happen at the Brighton UK convention but given the increasingly emotionally based atmosphere at conventions I am not surprised and don't think most Witnesses would have a problem with. When it happens at a normal KH meeting is when a real sea change will have occurred.
there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.
the brother/organization lied about how old they are.
he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.
They mentioned something about this in the talk at Brighton as they said something like 4600 or 4700 years old as I whispered to my wife that that was interesting considering the flood was about 4400 years ago and would have destroyed all the trees.
march 22, 2017 to all convention committees re: discontinuation of physical distribution of convention releases.
They don't seem to realise that the less they produce the less they will receive in donations in a downward spiral. It's as if they think people are going to keep on donating anyway. A misapprehension you'd think the last two decades would have thoroughly disabused them of.
The credit card machines at Brighton seemed to doing a brisk trade every time I went past them. It only ever seemed to be females getting their plastic out however.
so i have been inactive for about a year and a half.
been baptised for about 35 years.how long would it take before they give up on what i do with my life, for example, i celebrate all holidays now, and have even posted on social media pics of me and my family celebrating.
do they even care anymore?
Addendum...
The simple answer is that if they want to DF you then they will. You're baptised and celebrating a false religious holiday.
so i have been inactive for about a year and a half.
been baptised for about 35 years.how long would it take before they give up on what i do with my life, for example, i celebrate all holidays now, and have even posted on social media pics of me and my family celebrating.
do they even care anymore?
You can get away with birthdays depending on the local elders. If they catch you doing Christmas or anything else religious then a number of things can happen.
1 - nothing. They ignore you, maybe spread some things locally and wait for you to resurface at the meetings before offering "counsel".
2 - they knock at the door, confront you and invite you to a JC. If this happens you 99% will be DFed and an announcement made.
3 - they view it as following another religion and therefore disassociation by your actions (one of the few valid reasons for this). An announcement will be made. In principle this is the correct action per org instructions but is not always followed as option 1 or 2 may be more convenient for them
is jehovah really a loving and compassionate "father" to his children?
as a jw i would have definitely answered "yes", followed by the typical "he allows suffering, but doesn't cause it", or perhaps the "he has created us to enjoy life and wants us to be happy" mumbo jumbo.
today's daily text demonstrate this reasoning (bold mine):.
This is the same loving father that watches his children go through endless suffering, tries to justify it on the basis of the suffering being needed for divine justice to be properly exercised and THEN... has the bollocks to inspire a talk at the convention (last one before lunch on Friday) where he shows no compassion for his children but just gives them a big list of things he has had to "put up with" whilst they have been suffering.
Imagine sitting at the bedside of your terminally ill child and telling them to forget their pain and think about what you've had to go through.
Sorry to be such a burden Jehovah.
so one of the things witnesses have been saying for years is how marriage is under attack, typically marrying the word "soaring" with the words "divorce" and "rate".. here are some metrics that suggest that for those who do get married in england and wales this assertion is not actually correct.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40524156.
sure there are less marriages than there used to be and more people cohabiting but it does throw some water on the argument that the sky is falling in as far as marriage is concerned..
So one of the things Witnesses have been saying for years is how marriage is under attack, typically marrying the word "soaring" with the words "divorce" and "rate".
Here are some metrics that suggest that for those who do get married in England and Wales this assertion is not actually correct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40524156
Sure there are less marriages than there used to be and more people cohabiting but it does throw some water on the argument that the sky is falling in as far as marriage is concerned.
on http://avoidjw.org/2017-regional-convention/ you can find the talk outlines of the regional convention this year.. i looked into the final talks each day and found these releases to be announced:.
on saturday:.
new magazine-size book entitled "lessons you can learn from the bible".
Cheers fella. That's what I was looking for.
on http://avoidjw.org/2017-regional-convention/ you can find the talk outlines of the regional convention this year.. i looked into the final talks each day and found these releases to be announced:.
on saturday:.
new magazine-size book entitled "lessons you can learn from the bible".
Looks like the PDF versions of the outlines are offline on avoidjw now. Does anyone have them as I want to check a couple of them.
