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  In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.

  the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.

  child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.

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  konceptual99

  Thanks for the translations. Great work.
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  $1.2 billion coming, still 12 properties to go

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but still, they ask for more at every opportunity.

  send in that ice cream money kids!.

  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/4/sales-watchtower-headquarters-and-two-other-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-properties-could.

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  konceptual99

  Theories abound on this subject. I am dubious of either extreme. I don't think the WTS is haemorrhaging cash and is going to be brought down by a raft of pedo claims. I also don't think the WTS is so cash rich they have it all covered for decades.

  I suspect there are a number of things going on.

  Firstly they can see that the long term trend is for less cash per head to come in from the congregations. The growth is in poorer countries and so, pro-rata, more shall be needed to be looked after by less. Physical literature is being reduced through (a) less being printed and (b) greater reliance on electronic delivery. Costs reduce of course but so does the nudge that people had to donate each time they picked up literature.

  Secondly, they rapidly increased costs in the short term with a number of large building projects. They have also likely spent large sums on the rebrand, JW Broadcasting, animation facilities. They have also been building RTOs like there is no tomorrow.

  Thirdly they have sat on a number of assets and been unable to realise their value to fund building programs etc.

  Fourthly, they have conducted some kind of internal process review and concluded that they are spending lots of money maintaining hotel facilities for Bethelites. They have also seen the rise in costs for looking after older full time servants and done projections on what this will cost in the next 10-20 years.

  Fifthly, they see a real risk of losing tax free status in one or more lands that provide major contributions. They are realising cash now (e.g. forgiving loans in return for donating cash on hand) and preparing for the worst.

  Sixthly, I do not discount the reserving of funds to shut up the loudest claimants against the WTS regarding abuse.

  I am certain that the GB 2.0 allowed spend to escalate way more rapidly than their predecessors and somewhere along the line realised the problem. They got a quick injection via the hall loan asset grab but now have the real figures on which to plan for the future. They can see the trend and now are cashing in on the property.

  They have got rid of loads of full time servants that will be costing them money in healthcare over the next 10-20 years and stopped running hotels.

  They are already consolidating halls and I predict further and more severe cuts here too. I do not rule out the compulsory closure of halls with just one congregation and forcing them to share 2-4 congs in a hall.

  I predict further reductions in conventions with more use of assembly halls. The move to single days has two benefits. One is to allow greater occupancy and the second is to make the same money in one day that used to be in two days.

  As has been pointed out many times now, this is no longer a publishing organisation. It is making it's money out of property. Some of this is buying and selling but they have also sussed that they need to be landlords as well and make the most out of property occupancy.

  I could even see them pre-empting unfavourable tax status changes and simply telling the congregations that they own the hall now and charging a rent.

  
  
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  The lord of the rings

  by BlackWolf in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  now that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.

  i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!

  who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.

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  konceptual99

  I know loads of Witnesses that watch LOTR & The Hobbit. It's rare to find anyone open about Harry Potter though.
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  2015 November 19, BOE! Circuit Account Balances!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  delete if already posted.. .

  2015-november 19, boe.

  .. re: review of circuit account balances.

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  konceptual99

  And they have the nerve to say they recognise the financial hardship people are under.

  Instead of surplus funds offset the costs of the next assembly (including the extortionate hall usage fees) the account gets set to zero each time.

  The dubs that contribute are putting money into the WWW (aka Bethel coffers) 3 times... directly at the hall, surplus KH funds and now surplus circuit funds. As to how many realise it is another question.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  konceptual99

  Quite @Vidiot.....
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  konceptual99

  It's official doctrine ( of which Jackson is guardian ) to comply with any law of Caesar which does not conflict with the Bible. Jackson feels that mandatory reporting would be a good thing, therefore, it must not conflict with the Bible. This begs the question, "Why hasn't the WTBTS always reported allegations of child sexual abuse voluntarily?"
  Where is the logic in suggesting mandatory reporting, if you plan on disobeying that law? If plan to obey the law, why not practice the principle behind that law? Surely the one true Xian denomination does not need Caesar to force them to do the right thing....

  Exactly DD.
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  Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.

  what would be their motive for these details?

  the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.

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  Here's some wild speculation for you.

  Could they be after a bunch of company men and women to look after the forced sale of halls and congregation assets? Here in the UK it is common, outside of the larger towns and cities, for there to be areas where there are 2 or 3 halls with single congregations within a 10-20 mile radius. I bet the same applies in other places as well. What if they simply force 2 or 3 congregations to all meet in one hall and force the sale of the unused single congregation halls?

  My bit of 2+2=5 for the week...
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  Australian Royal Commission Findings released

  by Mephis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.

  in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.

  available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.

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  konceptual99

  Superb!
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  konceptual99

  Mandatory reporting IMHO is a red herring. Jackson bleating about trying to manage the various issues around confidentiality and protection, twisting and turning to portray Jehovah's Witnesses as some kind of loose religious co-operative with limited structure and then basically asking the commission to make it all easy by requiring mandatory reporting is pure hypocrisy.

  Why is the WTS so unwilling to apply best practice that has already been implemented in other organisations? Why is the WTS so unwilling to unilaterally prioritise the reporting of alleged abuse to the authorities then worry about the internal disciplinary process once the facts are independently established? Why is the WTS so unwilling to make the procedure completely open, transparent and clear to anyone inside or outside the organisation?

  These are questions that the WTS should be forced to face up to. Making the problem go away by enforcing mandatory reporting allows the WTS to avoid putting it's house into order when it is completely within their power to do so. Things might change for the better in Australia but simply waiting for the government to force the issue means they continue to stick with the status quo everywhere else.
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  Theocratic Ministry School cancelled. Why?

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  is it possible this aspect of the meeting was cancelled so that jws would not be categorized as a "school" where in many areas elders and ministerial servants would have to submit to a background check by secular authorities?

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  konceptual99

  Ok so the TMS was not cancelled, it was reformatted and rebranded. Why?

  Because everything is being changed and rebranded in this religion at the moment. They had reached a plateau of top down, centralised dissemination of information and then they embraced video and the internet. Now they have a whole new set of tools to use to make things even more prescriptive and they cannot stop themselves inventing new ways of using them.

  The average joe dub is being kept completely pre-occupied with change, duped into a false sense of urgency, hopefully distracted from complaint or becoming discontented with failed dogma through a never ending stream of new "content".

  Every possible negative is being spun either overtly (e.g. the money/construction debacle) or covertly through rumour, some chariot references and over active imaginations fired by a group persecution complex.

  The conclusion of the matter however is that whatever spews out of the arse of Bethel you just scrape the surface of the turd and expose the same old shite dumped into a new bucket.