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  At RC, Splane says 1000+ new KH's needed, last year only "60" new one's built.

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
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  so there are now regular, full time "construction servants" and their help is much needed along with regional rbc volunteers, who better get working because over a thousand kh's are needed and last year only sixty were built by the u.s. branch.

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  splane also said that just with the new baptized this weekend all over the u.s. we had one whone new circuit, so we better put more work into building needed kingdom halls..

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  Actually scrap the 1000 refurbs. It's probably a handful just to keep the achieve the same end result...
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  At RC, Splane says 1000+ new KH's needed, last year only "60" new one's built.

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so there are now regular, full time "construction servants" and their help is much needed along with regional rbc volunteers, who better get working because over a thousand kh's are needed and last year only sixty were built by the u.s. branch.

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  splane also said that just with the new baptized this weekend all over the u.s. we had one whone new circuit, so we better put more work into building needed kingdom halls..

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  Londo111 - it's not 1000 new halls. It's 1000 refurbs or needless replacements of existing halls so that ownership can pass to the WTS, RBCs (is it LDCs now) can be kept busy and donation momentum can be maintained.
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  Anyone have archives of talks like "stay alive till 75?"

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was curious if anyone knew how to listen to talks like sinutkos stay alive to 75, or fred franz talk about how there was no 1st century gb.. i can listen to them on youtube but they are on obviously apostate youtube channels.

  i would like for my wife to hear them but cant do that on apostate youtube channels.. does anyone know if these talks are available in an online archive somewhere else?.

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  These are very interesting but sometimes I think the 1975 drum is one that has been banged too hard and too long. It means nothing to young witnesses now. Older ones dismiss it everytime it comes up.

  There are many things that are happening now or recent changes that are far more relevant to the current crop of witnesses. Of course 1975 provides historical context to a stream of failed prophecies, has been spun no end by the WTS and is a serious piece of history for many but does anyone think that it is a key element to waking ones up now?

  Not saying don't bother, just wondering if the perception of it's import is mismatched to the reality?
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  I was 36 when I started posting here. This weekend I celebrated my 50th birthday!

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  and i mean celebrated!

  it was a cracking barbecue party for around 40 good friends and neighbours as well as my 'never jw' cousins and one of my brothers and his family.. .

  drank a bit too much, embarrassed my kids with some 'dad dancing' and laughed until 2 in the morning.

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  Happy Birthday! Sounds like a good party. Just wondering why you still have all those old books? I still go and have got rid of most of my literature!
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  Tour de France

  by konceptual99 in

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  if anyone wants to see some beautiful english landscapes then get some of the live footage of the tour de france, currently making it's way through the yorkshire countryside.. another good opportunity for a british winner again....

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  Got to agree tornapart.
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  Tour de France

  by konceptual99 in

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  if anyone wants to see some beautiful english landscapes then get some of the live footage of the tour de france, currently making it's way through the yorkshire countryside.. another good opportunity for a british winner again....

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  If anyone wants to see some beautiful English landscapes then get some of the live footage of the Tour de France, currently making it's way through the Yorkshire countryside.

  Another good opportunity for a British winner again...
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  Why Do Certain "Inactive Ones" Get Bothered By The Elders While Others Don't?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  it seems some inactive ones and active jws are hardly ever bothered by the elders while others are constantly called, checked up on, etc...... what gives?.

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  Personalities, visibility, family ties, history, elder laziness, elder ego, organisational focus...

  Any number of reasons. In my experience it is those who have caused a stir or are known for being outspoken/controversial and have few influential family still in that get the most sneaky heat.
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  A precious gift to all from Jehovah (channelled via Focus)

  by Focus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some souls here may feel i was a little harsh.

  if so, i am deeply sorry.

  i was abused by a handful right from the start, presumably on the basis of the avatar picture (and 2001 vintage).. when visiting dubland, i often find that others start fights with me - for whatever reason, and i provide quite a supply of them - and when it doesn't quite go the way they expected, they cry persecution.

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  Indeed the asssumption that God exists is the base line for lots of reasoning to encourage faith. How often did you answer points such as there can be no God due to the amount of needless and preventable sufferening in the world with a "ah, well let's presume God exists. Now ask the question why he would permit this? It's because Satan had challanged his authority and divine justice requires time. You don't beleive in Satan? Well, just assume he does exist then you will see this is a really satisfying answer to the question as to why there is so much suffering...."
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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  I think the number of languages will become a bigger and bigger boasting point.

  They do around 700 atm and aim to grow that to over 1000 in the very short term future. They mention this regularly now at assemblies and Bethal speaker talks. They put it in the context of Google and Wikipedia figures to show how amazing the organisation is.

  They have started linking this to the "every tribe, nation and tongue" scripture. I don't know if they will use this to officially say that having jw.org/publications in all these languages means the preaching work is fullfilling prophecy but I am convinced this will be suggested more and more thus implying a truely global preaching work and deflecting criticism away from the fact that at least a billion people (perhaps double that) are never likely to be reached via the D2D, trolley and public preaching work.
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  Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?

  by objectivetruth in

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  2. beliefs

  i've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.

  i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..

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  As a born in Witness, when I was well and truely in I felt morally superior. I felt that I was part of a pure organisation that had proper morals, aligned to God's purpose.

  As I have woken up to TTATT and lost my faith and belief in God I have realised how shallow my morality was. I do feel that I was taught a good moral baseline but it was the reasons why it was important to act with honesty, integrity and compassion. As a Witness is was because it would be pleasing to Jehovah. As a humanist (for want of a better phrase) it's becuase it's the right thing to do for my fellow humans.

  As such I have realised I am not actually that compassionate. As a Witness I avoided giving to charity, dismissed giving my time and energy to voluntary organisations aiming to help those in real need - treating these as minor compared to the life saving work of peddling the Watchtower. I have had to completely re-evaluate my thinking process and what I really think about the issues facing mankind on a daily basis and what I can do to help. Now I feel a fraud.

  I always considered I was a Witness with proper thinking ability. Now I realise that I still delegated so much to WT reasoning. I am having to start pretty much from square one to try and build my own opinion that is not shaped by the paths moulded by my decades long adherence to WT philosophy.