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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  konceptual99

  It's official doctrine ( of which Jackson is guardian ) to comply with any law of Caesar which does not conflict with the Bible. Jackson feels that mandatory reporting would be a good thing, therefore, it must not conflict with the Bible. This begs the question, "Why hasn't the WTBTS always reported allegations of child sexual abuse voluntarily?"
  Where is the logic in suggesting mandatory reporting, if you plan on disobeying that law? If plan to obey the law, why not practice the principle behind that law? Surely the one true Xian denomination does not need Caesar to force them to do the right thing....

  Exactly DD.
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  Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.

  what would be their motive for these details?

  the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.

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  konceptual99

  Here's some wild speculation for you.

  Could they be after a bunch of company men and women to look after the forced sale of halls and congregation assets? Here in the UK it is common, outside of the larger towns and cities, for there to be areas where there are 2 or 3 halls with single congregations within a 10-20 mile radius. I bet the same applies in other places as well. What if they simply force 2 or 3 congregations to all meet in one hall and force the sale of the unused single congregation halls?

  My bit of 2+2=5 for the week...
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  Australian Royal Commission Findings released

  by Mephis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.

  in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.

  available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.

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  konceptual99

  Superb!
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  konceptual99

  Mandatory reporting IMHO is a red herring. Jackson bleating about trying to manage the various issues around confidentiality and protection, twisting and turning to portray Jehovah's Witnesses as some kind of loose religious co-operative with limited structure and then basically asking the commission to make it all easy by requiring mandatory reporting is pure hypocrisy.

  Why is the WTS so unwilling to apply best practice that has already been implemented in other organisations? Why is the WTS so unwilling to unilaterally prioritise the reporting of alleged abuse to the authorities then worry about the internal disciplinary process once the facts are independently established? Why is the WTS so unwilling to make the procedure completely open, transparent and clear to anyone inside or outside the organisation?

  These are questions that the WTS should be forced to face up to. Making the problem go away by enforcing mandatory reporting allows the WTS to avoid putting it's house into order when it is completely within their power to do so. Things might change for the better in Australia but simply waiting for the government to force the issue means they continue to stick with the status quo everywhere else.
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  Theocratic Ministry School cancelled. Why?

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  is it possible this aspect of the meeting was cancelled so that jws would not be categorized as a "school" where in many areas elders and ministerial servants would have to submit to a background check by secular authorities?

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  Ok so the TMS was not cancelled, it was reformatted and rebranded. Why?

  Because everything is being changed and rebranded in this religion at the moment. They had reached a plateau of top down, centralised dissemination of information and then they embraced video and the internet. Now they have a whole new set of tools to use to make things even more prescriptive and they cannot stop themselves inventing new ways of using them.

  The average joe dub is being kept completely pre-occupied with change, duped into a false sense of urgency, hopefully distracted from complaint or becoming discontented with failed dogma through a never ending stream of new "content".

  Every possible negative is being spun either overtly (e.g. the money/construction debacle) or covertly through rumour, some chariot references and over active imaginations fired by a group persecution complex.

  The conclusion of the matter however is that whatever spews out of the arse of Bethel you just scrape the surface of the turd and expose the same old shite dumped into a new bucket.
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  2015-11-18-BOE--Credits to jwfacts!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to mr. jwfacts we now have a copy of this letter.

  i would have posted it on his thread but there was already 2 pages of replies and i didn't think the link would be seen.. thank you again mr. facts!.

  .. click the green download button.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/bbduxaa.

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  konceptual99

  Is this Australia only?

  IGNORE - just seen the other thread.
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  Theocratic Ministry School cancelled. Why?

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  is it possible this aspect of the meeting was cancelled so that jws would not be categorized as a "school" where in many areas elders and ministerial servants would have to submit to a background check by secular authorities?

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  konceptual99

  The TMS has not been cancelled. It's just had a format change and rebrand.
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  converting to catholic

  by SloppyMcFloppy in

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  2. experiences

  hello i was wondering if any ex jw have converted to catholic?

  i have been tossing the idea around a bit and wondering if it was woth it from personal experience?

  thoughts?

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  konceptual99

  I don't about any conversion to being a Catholic but I do know that the PopeMobile has had the exhaust system fitted with a Catholic Converter.

  I thank you. I'm here all week. Tell your friends and don't forget to buy my DVD on the way out.

  Welcome sloppymcfloppy btw!
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  An elder bought my son a suit

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .

  how rude of me.

  i am thinking about returning to him.

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  konceptual99

  Dunedain - amazing
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  A little musical interlude....

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a little classic and very apt electronica/rock from chicago's finest - tortoise - for those wee hours of a sunday with a dram or two.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpalghjfsi.

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  konceptual99

  A little classic and very apt electronica/rock from Chicago's finest - Tortoise - for those wee hours of a Sunday with a dram or two...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTpAlGhjfSI