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  Mormon view of JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone have any links to how the mormons (or ex mormons for that matter) view the changes that the wts has made over recent years, especially the growth of jw.org and characters like caleb & sophia?.

  have they noticed?

  do they see similarities?

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  konceptual99

  Noah preached for many years and he saw no results at all, still he is called a preacher of righteousness 2 Peter 2:5

  It's a fecking good job none of them did otherwise the ark would not have been big enough. Did Jehovah know it would only be Noah when he gave him the plans? Or would he have chucked off the elephants, rhinos, hippos, wildebeast and giraffes if a few too many people had said they were coming along for the ride?
  I don't mind someone sticking up for the WT but to use the Flood to back up some lame justification for wasting your time every Saturday morning is really scrapping the barrel. I am amazed you've been around this site for so long and can still give the idea of a global flood survived only by that weirdy beardy and his family any credence.
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  Mormon view of JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone have any links to how the mormons (or ex mormons for that matter) view the changes that the wts has made over recent years, especially the growth of jw.org and characters like caleb & sophia?.

  have they noticed?

  do they see similarities?

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  konceptual99

  @inside

  Check out the references on the purpose of the preaching work.

  Granted, one reason is purely as an obligation which does not rely on anyone taking any notice but that's not all. Another purpose is to warn people with the objective of them coming to know about Jehovah and his plans for the earth - so they can make an informed decision about what they wish to do now before the big A comes.

  In that aspect, conversion ratios are important. In that aspect, the effectiveness of ensuring the message is clearly understood by as many people as possible is a critical factor. In that aspect, preventing as many people as possible from being fried by giant burning gobstoppers from space is the number one purpose of why everyone trots out on the field ministry.

  In that aspect, Jehovah's Witnesses have failed miserably. If the WTS was really interested in reaching as many people as possible with a clear and unmistakable message that would save their life then they would not send a couple of little old biddies round. They would not have people standing around for 2 hours with a cart whilst a few people maybe pick something up only to toss it away 50m down the street. They would do some proper advertising with all that money, really make God's name and the Kingdom Message something nobody could miss.

  Oh - and they'd find a practical way to reach maybe two billion people in areas where the number of witnesses makes a meaningful street ministry about as possible as irrigating the Sahara with your p**s.
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  ABC's report on child abuse

  by Joyzabel in

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  2. child-abuse

  nice job!

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  konceptual99

  Don't forget that on jwtalk they don't like anything that goes too far against the party line. Frank debate is not a strong point over there....
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  New Formula 1 season kicks off and we get ...

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. physical

  ... coverage of it on the channel that advertises it in the listing as "formula 1 practice session"?.

  what could be more important?.

  a review of some junior hockey tournament.. for gods sake, wtf is wrong with this country?!?!?.

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  konceptual99

  Fast forward 30 years and football is now a dominant sport because people want to see the skilled players be able to perform without being cynically hacked down.

  Now you can watch skilled players dive instead.

  And I love football....
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  Mormon view of JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone have any links to how the mormons (or ex mormons for that matter) view the changes that the wts has made over recent years, especially the growth of jw.org and characters like caleb & sophia?.

  have they noticed?

  do they see similarities?

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  konceptual99

  Interesting how this thread has morphed into a discussion on JW growth. I don't understand how it is not obvious to anyone looking at the WTS's own stats that the growth in Western nations is stagnating, driven by foreign language ministries. How is it not possible to look at the conversation ratios and see the waste of time spent in field service?

  The ineffectiveness of the global preaching work is blatantly manifest but thanks to the propaganda and spin put on figures by the WTS it is simply lost on those mentally in. I do maintain some hope, however, that the WTS constant reference to figures will actually be one of the key factors in the wake up of many who are questioning what they are doing inside the org.
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  Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .

  by jhine in

  1. social
  2. humour

  lots of serious stuff being discussed on site .

  i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.

  come on now share yours.

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  konceptual99

  I found a mass grave of snowmen.
  Then I realised it was just a field of carrots.

  Milton Jones. Class.

  My grandfather died the other day. He'd been ill for a long time but last week my grandmother put Vaseline all over his back and then he went downhill really quickly.
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  konceptual99

  Sorry to be a party pooper but Private Eye satirises matters and scandals which are common knowledge. I regret to say that I'm not so sure that what we find important is on everyone else's radar as yet.

  I would disagree to an extent. True, the satirical side tends to lampoon events that are common knowledge but there is lots of serious journalism going on underneath it all. PE has championed a number of stories over the years which have taken much longer to be reported on by the mainstream press. This is especially true regarding City scandals.

  They also set up the Paul Foot award, specifically to acknowledge investigative reporters,
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  konceptual99

  Well done on the Private Eye front Joe. I will be interested to see if they pick up on it.

  I would hope that the CC can do something with this case to put pressure on the WTS.
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  Mormon view of JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone have any links to how the mormons (or ex mormons for that matter) view the changes that the wts has made over recent years, especially the growth of jw.org and characters like caleb & sophia?.

  have they noticed?

  do they see similarities?

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  konceptual99

  Very true Simon but people on this group and others have picked up in similarities between Mormon and JW use of the internet. I just wondered if there was any evidence of the parallels being seen from the other direction.
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  Mormon view of JW.ORG

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone have any links to how the mormons (or ex mormons for that matter) view the changes that the wts has made over recent years, especially the growth of jw.org and characters like caleb & sophia?.

  have they noticed?

  do they see similarities?

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  konceptual99

  Does anyone have any links to how the Mormons (or ex Mormons for that matter) view the changes that the WTS has made over recent years, especially the growth of JW.ORG and characters like Caleb & Sophia?

  Have they noticed? Do they see similarities? Do they care?

  I've tried some searches but not come up with anything.