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  Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

  in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

  further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.

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  The issuse re older women having to defer to young children was pointed out when the previous ruling wad made. I am sure this is why they have changed it now.
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  Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

  by Hidden-Window in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

  the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

  many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

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  15 mins is for those with special circumstances such as old age, severe illness etc. For most people it's as you describe it.
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  Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

  by Hidden-Window in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

  the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

  many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

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  I had this very conversation with my wife recently. She did not buy it at all. Her view was that we are getting what we need now. The GB have recognised it's hard for people and making it as easy as possible to hang on in there until the end.

  I think the information age does make it easier to find the material for critical research - I know it helped me. I still think though that the simple fact the material is there is enough to make a significant difference. The cognative dissonance runs deep as does the anti-apostate scaremongering. It's there when people want to search but I don't think we are at a point where people are being poked from a state of acceptance of WT doctrine to research TTATT.
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  A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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  Got to agree with the posts that deplore the behaviour. Perhaps this little girl is related to BOTR...?
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  Is Anthony Morris III gay?

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why else would he constantly bring up "gay-inspired" clothing when speaking to such large audiences?.

  nothing wrong with being gay.

  but he should just come out of the closet already and stop all this stupidity... just saying.. .

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  No idea if he is gay but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a c***.
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  Anthony Morris The Third

  by Yondaime in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i am3 was going to speak i was ecstatic to hear this lunatic embarass himself.

  after the propaganda indoctrination session, a relative asked me what my spiritual goals were, i told em i want to become a servant before i turn 23 so i could get laid.

  lmfao.

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  "man enough"....

  so it's all about testosterone fueled, billy big bollocks machismo now? Elders not just being assertive but bullying the congregation into submission?

  Morris really is a c***.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  Some of the comments from jwtalk...

  Just got home after eating after branch visit. AMAZING! I've said a lot of that stuff to people tactfully, but Bro. Morris nailed it.

  Bro. Morris is so funny....he gave a talk that was straight forward.

  That was THE MOST DIRECT talk I've ever heard in my 25 years in the truth! WOW!

  It was amazing. Loved bro Morris's talk, he is so direct, he really made me think about my life

  A regular brother would get stoned if he gave a public talk like that. Only a GB member could do that.

  WOW! That was a very straight to the point talk! I enjoyed it immensely and talk about really making you think. It was very encouraging!!!!

  I absolutely loved the Branch visit for a number of reasons. I will be interested to hear what friends thought about the very Direct and Frank discussion by all of the Brothers.

  What I get is that there i nothing 'new' as such, just very to the point and hard hitting.

  Bro. Morris, LOVED IT!!! Talks like that should be given---maybe more often than they are. Just recall how he opened the talk about where this info originated.

  What you have here is conditioning through osmosis. One of the GB says things in a talk that NO ONE else could say as it's unloving, unscripturual, full of personal opinion and judgemental. One of the GB says things in a talk that will NEVER be published as they are too controversial to be put down in print.

  This stuff gets lapped up by ones in audience who wish they could be as judgemental, unloving, unscriptural and opinionated from the platform but can't because they are not one of the GB. It does give them tacit approval to voice their opinions more however.

  At the AGM they show mock humilty about not "going beyond the things written" over Franz's type/anti type shite yet 4 weeks later present a bunch of opinion to an audience of over a million (1 in 8 of the global JW audience) which is full of personal opinion. This opinion then becomes the rules because 1 in 8 heard in from a GB member's mouth directly. 1 in 8 has lapped it up and can refer to it time and time again without it ever being in print.

  It's a tool that has been used for years by the WTS but the ability to use technology to get GB talks into halls directly takes it to a whole new level.
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  Geoffrey Jackson hints at the identity of the King of the North

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the big news at the annual corporate meeting was probably the sudden realization that gog of .

  magog was some group of nations.

  the news was given by geoffrey jackson.

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  They know nothing. It's just a bogus method of raising expectations without having to say anything of consequence. I think they will be very cautious about ever putting a stake in the ground on this one. Be prepared for it to become less concrete and more abstract.

  Ultimately they never can know who the KOTN is - since the whole thing is untrue.
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  Vic'n'Bob ... in the US?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i must be mad for starting this thread, but here goes: i quite like vic reeves and bob mortimer.

  before you all jump on me, i realise that their humour is often childish and very hit-or-miss, to say the least.. however, when i'm in the right mood, some of their sketches are simply hilarious.. i was also wondering how british humour is received in other countries, particularly the us.. .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizyptckdz8.

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  Love 'em. Saw them on tour several times. Brilliant.
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  Kingdom Hall consolidations in the UK

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  /from reliable sources (brothers in position within the congragation) i've been informed that in two different location within the uk congragations are to be consolidated .these men are loyal to the society and have no contact with ex-jw community .many brothers and sisters within these 4 congragations are devasted and undertantably very upset .one of these congragation has in excess of 150k in the bank currently "held" by the society as a loan .do you have any more information on this ?

  is this just a one off or a new trend ?.

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  PS... A similar situation exists in Alton (Hampshire) - rual congregation. One move to share with Petersfield (another rural cong) cancelled at the last minute. They might be combining with congregations in Basingstoke (urban) now.