Good luck getting most Western nations to force the WTS to drop it's charitable & tax exempt status over DF. In most places the "freedom of religion" card trumps the shunning issue and the judiciary have no stomach for a fight at that level. On top of that the WTS do a magnificant job of twisting the policy so that the it's not seen as a top down policy, rather something for individuals to determine at a personal level. They can quote "family business". They can say it's individual conscience. They can also plead that it's not a human right to force someone else to talk to you if they choose not to.
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Is The Governing Body Open To Lawsuits In Some Countries Over Enforced Shunning Of Ex Members?
by frankiespeakin inhave they crossed some sort of legal line when they enforce shunning of ex members?
can they get sued for harassment?
what are the legal boundaries they have crossed by enforce shunning of ex member by threatening disfellowshipping of any member not shunning certain individuals?
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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konceptual99
One of the biggest aspects of my mental awakening has been my realisation that as the capabilities of science has increased so the need for essentially "woo" explainations for things not understood has decreased.
The inability of science to currently reanimate dead things does not mean there has to be a supernatural force at work keeping things alive. It simply means that science cannot monitor and control the sub-atomic bio-chemical processes that are taking place. I am sure that at some point these processes shall be measurable.
There are many things that are beyond the ability of scientists to measure or observe at the current time. What they are able to do however, is predict what the nature of these things may be. There will be things that they know nothing about right now and cannot even predict the existence of but, as science advances, so too will the realisation that these aspects of the universe exist.
My personal opinion is that the "spirit" world does not exist so there is little sense trying to define what the nature of a spirit being is.
For the sake of argument, however, I am sure that if there were such a thing then it's nature could be, at some point in time, measured and observed. At the very least, it's nature could be predicted and explained using mathematics, physics, chemisty and biology.
Any other conclusion is simply a variation on the "it wos God wot dun it" theme.
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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK
by Simon inshower room.
office.
games room.
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konceptual99
Can we get the form PDF posted? That would be awesome.
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They are going to charge members monthly fees now! Society Tyranny
by MysticMage inwell there you have it folks.
they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.
down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.
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konceptual99
Once again theocratic education shines through with the idiotic spelling mistake and poor grammar.
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QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage
by wisdomfrombelow inthe article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
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konceptual99
This article says nothing new in practical terms. It simply says they don't know and so the answer to the question is "could be". It's yet another case of them documenting they know nothing but other than that nothing to see here IMHO.
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What's Your Scenario For The Watchtower Corporation's Business Future? Will They Survive Much Longer In This Information Age?
by frankiespeakin inthe internet a marvel of modern science, mass communication, information at your finger tips is transforming peoples lives.
but alas the whole thing took the governing body by surprise as they continued to pin their hopes on childishly magical and wishful thinking bible interpetations.. the train has left the station and the governing body are just now comming to terms with it(the internet), while they still demonize it for its freeing power, and plethora of information that doesn't fit with their narrow world view they must still navigate a path that includes or give some recognition to this information source now becomming availible to all all over the world.. how will the watchtower survive all this and still be directed by a bunch of delusional old and odd geezers is beyound me to comprehend.
what say you?.
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konceptual99
It ain't going anywhere soon.
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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK
by Simon inshower room.
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games room.
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konceptual99
I really hope this is true and gets exposed right after the news hits about the "gissus all yer money" donations change. Get conversation starter for the pub.
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Losing our religion: Your guide to a godless future
by Comatose inthe younger generation is hopefully learning more about the way life works and how it evolved here on earth.
encouraging to see these results.. .
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22229670.600-losing-our-religion-your-guide-to-a-godless-future.html#.u2yx5a1dwkm .
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konceptual99
Just been reading the full article. Very interesting.
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They are i- Pad Nutty Now
by Poztate inso many at my wife's hall have rushed to buy i-pads,androids etc for use in servicetm and at the hall.. most know little or nothing about how to use them but have joined the stampede to jw.org tm and the reinvention of the wtbts.. it prompted one elder at my wife's hall to have a seminar at his house to explain how to use them in service and at the hall.. how exciting.... one 80 year old pioneer woman will be there with her new toy.. as a distraction it seems to be working quite well.
no need to worry about 1914 or other issues.. they are all nuts and getting nuttier....
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konceptual99
They had a video at the hall the other night showing how to use tablets on the ministry. They then spoke about the young ones helping train the older ones to use them in the ministry.
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Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants
by Londo111 inthis is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
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konceptual99
They may full well bring in some non dub consultants on some aspects of the change program being run as well as investment/financial mangement. I can accept that some of this may even look at factoring the maximum income from the least contributors.
That is not the same as bringing in specialists to help them work out how best to dupe 8 million people and fleece the religion.