"self exalting speculators"
What a perfect self description!
i'm so curios about when jehovah's witnesses started to use/mention "proverbs 4:18" for changing their doctrines or briefs.. did they start it from early 1800's by russell ?
or next generation of jw's --- j.f.
rutherford?
"self exalting speculators"
What a perfect self description!
i was doing research on another topic and this question came to mind.
notice how the wts dances around the question below and then my comments about that and whether historically did the wts see isaiah as applying to all jws or only anointed members, spiritual israel (galatians 6:16)?.
are christians to be witnesses of jesus or jehovah?.
WHO'S WITNESSES SHOULD WE BE (ISA 43:10)?
w13 3/15 p. 24 par. 2 Honor Jehovah's Great Name
"Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand, are proud to bear God's name and to glorify it."
Acts 11:26 - "the disciples were by divine providence called Christians."
Matthew 10:18 - "...for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations." [JESUS]
Mark 13:9 - "...before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them." [JESUS]
Luke 24:47, 48 "and on the basis of [JESUS] name, repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preachedi in all the nations... You are to be witnesses of these things"
Acts 1:8 - "You will be witnesses of me..." [JESUS]
John 1:15 - "John bore witness about him..." [JESUS]
John 5:37 - "the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me." [JESUS]
John 8:18 - "the Father who sent me bears witness about me." [JESUS]
John 15:26,27 - "...will bear witness about me; and YOU in turn, are to bear witness." [JESUS]
Acts 4:17,18 - ...upon the basis of this (Jesus) .... upon the basis of the name of Jesus.
Acts 10:39 - "And we are witnesses of all the things he [Jesus] did..."
Acts 10:43 - "To him [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness..."
Acts 13:31 - "who are now his (Jesus') witnesses to the people.
Acts 22:15 - "because you are to be a witness for him [Jesus] to all men..."
Acts 22:20 - "......the blood of Stephen your [Jesus'] witness was being spilled..."
Acts 23:11 - "..... a thorough witness on the things about me in Jerusalem..." [JESUS]
Acts 26:16 -"I [Jesus]..choose you as an attendant and a witness...respecting me" [JESUS]
1 Corinthians 1:6 - "even as the witness about the Christ..."
Galatians 1:6-8 - ...if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news [about Christ] we declared to you, let him be accursed.
1 Tim. 2:6 - "..what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times."
2 Timothy 1:8 - "...of the witness about our Lord.. [Christ]"
1 John 5:9 - "the witness God gives...the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son."
Revelation 1:9 - "....for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 3:8 - ...."and you kept my word and did not prove false to my name." [JESUS]
Revelation 12:17 - "...and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 17:6 - "...and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus."
Revelation 19:10 -"...the work of witnessing to Jesus.... bearing witness to Jesus."
Revelation 20:4 - "... for the witness they bore to Jesus."
Note:
Isa 43:10 "'You are my witnesses,' declares Jehovah" is a reminder about what God had done and will do.
Vs 1: God reminds them that he bought them and they belong to him. (Jacob and Israel)
Vs 2: God promises to protect them
Vs 3: God reminds them that Egypt was their ransom
Vs 4: God tells them they are precious in His eyes
Vs 5-7: God assures them of his continued being with them
Vs 8-9: Now, here's the key: God issues a challenge to the nations and asks them to produce THEIR witnesses to see who is right: "Let all the nations assemble in one place,..."
"Let them present their witnesses to prove themselves right"
Vs 10: God then says to the Israelites, "YOU are my witnesses."
This wasn't about naming a group of people. This was about who is right and who is wrong. Who could produce witnesses for themselves that could truthfully claim to have been a saviour, protector, etc.
This was God's challenge to the nations, and He names the Israelites as HIS witnesses to that fact.
Then Isa 62:2 adds "The nations will see your righteousness, O woman, And all kings your glory.
And you will be called by a new name, Which Jehovah's own mouth will designate"
This was fulfilled in Acts 11:26 - "the disciples were by divine providence called Christians."
...to drop by and say, 'ayup, mates', to you all, my old friends.. i am so totally over the jobo thing i have surprised myself.. if anyone asks, 'what do you think of the jobos?
' my reply would be, 'i don't think of them.'.
all my rage, anger and sadness have dissipated over time.
Hey Punkster, nice to hear you're over the trauma.
It's amazing how we have to go through so much to escape the JW religion, but we're all on the broad and spacious (lol) road to freedom now.
Much like yourself I'm feeling pretty well adjusted these days. The anger and anxiety are gone. I just laugh at the feeble minded JW reasoning and shoo away any self important nobody's that try to exert influence over me - not that any do anymore.
It's been too long since we had a pint together!
i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).
you can't write this stuff.
right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..
And to think I wasn't allowed a two-door car in case it stumbled someone.
i have recently read two old newspaper articles from the early 1900's where bro russell speaks about two companies he created.. one was the united states realty company, and the other was the united states investment company.. the only thing i can find that comes close today is the united states realty and investment company which was established in 1927.. https://www.manta.com/c/mmcc47w/united-states-realty-investment-co-inc. is this a shell company for wt?.
Thank Atlantis, this is a new resource for me!
i have recently read two old newspaper articles from the early 1900's where bro russell speaks about two companies he created.. one was the united states realty company, and the other was the united states investment company.. the only thing i can find that comes close today is the united states realty and investment company which was established in 1927.. https://www.manta.com/c/mmcc47w/united-states-realty-investment-co-inc. is this a shell company for wt?.
The Sun. April 21, 1912
(snippet:)
The Herald. Feb 27, 1913
i have recently read two old newspaper articles from the early 1900's where bro russell speaks about two companies he created.. one was the united states realty company, and the other was the united states investment company.. the only thing i can find that comes close today is the united states realty and investment company which was established in 1927.. https://www.manta.com/c/mmcc47w/united-states-realty-investment-co-inc. is this a shell company for wt?.
I have recently read two old newspaper articles from the early 1900's where Bro Russell speaks about two companies he created.
One was the United States Realty company, and the other was the United States Investment company.
The only thing I can find that comes close today is the United States Realty and Investment Company which was established in 1927.
https://www.manta.com/c/mmcc47w/united-states-realty-investment-co-inc
jw.org states that they are the true religion.
i was told that it is written in the bible that jw.org is the true religion.
the following is the "alleged" evidence that was presented to me:.
Let's look at that scripture, ISA 43:10, in context.
Note:
Isa 43:10 "'You are my witnesses,' declares Jehovah" is a reminder about what God had done and will do.
Vs 1: God reminds them that he bought them and they belong to him. (Jacob and Israel)
Vs 2: God promises to protect them
Vs 3: God reminds them that Egypt was their ransom
Vs 4: God tells them they are precious in His eyes
Vs 5-7: God assures them of his continued being with them
Vs 8-9: Now, here's the key: God issues a challenge to the nations and asks them to produce THEIR witnesses to see who is right: "Let all the nations assemble in one place,..."
"Let them present their witnesses to prove themselves right"
Vs 10: God then says to the Israelites, "YOU are my witnesses."
This wasn't about naming a group of people. This was about who is right and who is wrong. Who could produce witnesses for themselves that could truthfully claim to have been a saviour, protector, etc.
This was God's challenge to the nations, and He names the Israelites as HIS witnesses to that fact.
Then Isa 62:2 adds "The nations will see your righteousness, O woman, And all kings your glory.
And you will be called by a new name, Which Jehovah's own mouth will designate"
This was fulfilled in Acts 11:26 - "the disciples were by divine providence called Christians."
my wife and i will be presenting in a class at the local university in a couple of weeks.
the class is about social media and psychology.
of course they talk about fake news and propaganda.
How about the bunker video?
https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.
it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.
(ouch!
Corney: there is no causal link. It would've happened anyway.
There is no possible way you could know that of course - it is just your opinion, guided by your bias.
It's a bit like saying that a wasp swarm would have happened whether you whacked the nest with a stick or not. Maybe it would have, but by whacking it you guarantee a response.