now that i am out i have a hard time understanding why people accept these changes from the society as "new light" and than view it as "truth.".
when i remember reading the scripture that "satan blinds the minds of the unbeliever.
" i didn't know that scripture applies to jehovah's witness.
They're in a cult. After you get done reading Franz's books check out "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. Read it sometime and you'll see more than a few similarities between just about any cult out there (Moonies, hare krishnas, Branch Davidians) and JW's.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
i just sent disassociated letter to my congregation after spending 26 years of my life as a jehovah's witness.
i am a newbie to this chat forum and i am happy to be part of this forum.
let me tell you a little background about myself.
Welcome out!!! You'll love it. While you're at it, examine everything you believe. When I left a couple years ago I was like you but now I'm not exactly the biggest believer in the bible. At all. Just go out now and look at everything and decide for yourself what is real and what's not. Go on, it'll be fun.
As for doing things now that you couldn't before, well, this Saturday I plan on getting a shower and washing my ever growing longer hair before trimming my beard a little bit, getting dressed and then my Christian wife and I are going to a Christmas party hosted by my friend Ken and his partner Steve. While there I plan on downing quite a few alcoholic beverages and discussing scientific matters that don't involve how right the bible was when describing how the earth was created with the planetarium/science director of the local museum (actually, his role in the recognition of the Lushton, NE meteorite and its ~4.5ba yr. age). Can you count how many things would make a JW cringe that I plan on doing in just a few hours? I can!
Have fun with your new freedom and question everything! Email me at [email protected] if you ever want to talk or if you'd like to get a whole bunch of Christmas cards from people on this list.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
i am just a young teenager, and my first ever boyfriend is a jw!!
at that time i didn't even know what a jw was, no one at school ever really mentioned anything.
i had no idea what i was getting into.
Speaking as a former JW who was in the exact same position of your boyfriend there are only three words I can tell you; "run", "run", and "run". I would do everything possible to get away from this guy. If there is only one group of things that I could change that I have ever done is the way that I treated some really wonderful members of the opposite sex when I was younger. He'll be making you play the games that a JW plays like no birthdays, christmas, valentines day, or anything like that. You've already talked about how he's lied to you about how his parents are always having to use the phone. What else will lie to you about?
You may be able to help this guy see the truth about the cult that he's in buy I doubt it. Has he ever tried to talk to you about his religion and convince you that stuff you believe is wrong? He probally does like you and doesn't want to put up with all the hassling from his parents. What could he do to get them to quit? Well, they wouldn't bug him as much if you were a JW too. Not only that but when he goes to his meetings he hears all about how great it is when you bring new people into the cul...religion. Don't let him change you. You seem like a bright girl with a good future. Don't throw it away for a loser.
You may actually be able to help him but I doubt it. At least not for quite some time. Look, plain and simple, save yourself the time, trouble, and hassle. All you'll get out of it is pain, hurt, and frustration. Trust me, I was your boyfriend more than a couple years ago and that's all any of my really great girlfriends ever got. When it comes down to it, you are the most important person in your life. Don't let some schmuck slow you down and mess with your life. Before you worry about saving your boyfriend you need to save yourself.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
yep,its them alright.i can see them from my computer desk right now.doin the dub shuffle down the street with their suits and breif cases.they work this street 2-4times a month and they avoid my house like the plague.ha-ha-ha must be from the times i chewed on them!and there they go,past my house twice,and didn`t even stop in to get chewed.i haven`t had roast dub for lunch in years.maybe next time..no i doubt it.i guess i`ll stay on my dub free diet(lol)...outlaw
I love screwing with JW's when they're in my neighborhood. The only time I've had the personal pleasure was when they didn't realize who lived at my house.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
(originally posted by armageddon1975 on yahoogroups).
"a donation to a charity.
good idea.".
Orgy in the backroom!!!!
Wait a minute, 608 b.c., oh sh.......
Blood pudding anyone?
Everyone sign up for the blood drive next week!
Man, I wish I could get into the cleaning business.
Two people who are still elders got married (take that to mean there are no women elders or gay guys allowed).
And this chart shows how man has evolved over the millenia.
Man, this food sucks! (said after eating at the memorial)
Somehow I thought Jesus would taste better.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
direct from the files of [email protected].
how to make an atheist backslide .
there is no god .
Wow, Musolini told god that if he's out there to kill him. God didn't do it right away but he sure killed Musolini years later. Guess that showed him. Never mind the fact that he would have died years later anyways.
HEY GOD, IF YOU'RE REALLY OUT THERE COME KILL ME.
Ok, I've just typed this next line means I'm still alive. Guess what, I'm going to die someday. Does that mean that it was god who killed me years later for what I just typed? No, it means I shouldn't have stepped out in front of that bus like a moron.
Like I posted earlier this afternoon in a different topic, if god really has spoken to humans, why didn't he do it more clearly? Why haven't the billions of people in asia all converted to Christianity?
I believe the Harrison quote is totally pointless. There is nothing more urgent search or important than the search for god to a cultist, not to me. Just because some one (famous or cult member or not) says something doesn't make it true. Some people will say that time's not wasted when you're wasted all the time. For those people its very true because the most important thing to them is getting high. That doesn't mean that I'm not going to finish this post to go score a high because I don't believe that saying (I don't even do drugs myself).
Who the f**k needs god to live a good life? I don't. I'll try to treat people fairly and justly because that's what I want done to me and I'm try not to be a jerk very often. That's not because I believe the bible or any other holy book.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
purgatory is still another.
what method of teaching did he impart to the 1st century christians?
how did he say that we should worship his father jehovah?
If god (in whatever form) ever has really spoken to humans why didn't he/she/it do it more clearly? You want me to believe god has ever really sent us a message, let me see a giant golden sign in the sky enshrouded in flame that can't be explained. Then I might believe that god has spoken to us.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
why i began thinking on prayer was the request from my spanish neighbour to my wife.
they requested that she come down and pray for his/her child who has been sick.
my wife believes in prayer and says she knows it works.
The thing that really gets me with prayer is how people are saying after the terrorists attacks that we need to pray. Don't you think that the people on those planes or in the WTC towers prayed before they died so senselessly? What good did their prayers do them when the terrorists attacked?
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
i was talking on the phone about a week ago with a poster from this forum, and when he found out i was from south bend, indiana, he asked me if i had gotten together with the group of indiana posters that were having a small gathering (around bloomington i think?).
the truth is, i havent had one-on-one contact with too many from this board up till now, save some frequent chat room visitors, so i didnt realize we had an indiana following.
after my name appeared on the whos who page, i did get emails from a couple people familiar with the area, but i would like to get in contact with the rest of the indiana posters.
I'm in SW Indiana in Evansville. Lived in Owensboro KY until 89 and have lived here since. Stopped going to get the brainwashings in 99.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
i want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.
i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.
i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.
Sorry to everyone who has emailed me and I haven't had a chance to get back with you. I've been out of town for a couple of days and finally got back home today. I went to St. Louis for a U2 concert. You can see some of the pictures here if you want to.
http://asteroidmodels.com/u2.htm
Anyways, I finally got the site with everyone's addresses. You should have gotten your emails with the link to list but if you haven't please email me and I'll send one your way. Anyone else who still hasn't signed up feel free to email me your mailing address. I'll then add your name to my website and send you the link to that page. All information is kept strictly confidential and the only way you can get to this page is from the link that I send you.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
